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re: When did our culture quit producing men that would “do what’s right”?
Posted on 9/21/19 at 3:36 am to SquatchDawg
Posted on 9/21/19 at 3:36 am to SquatchDawg
When we started celebrating and promoting single mothers
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 4:18 am to SquatchDawg
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When did our culture quit producing men that would “do what’s right”?
The Great Society Act in 64-65, and the left has destroyed the nuclear family. Just look at the black communities fatherless homes before and after and that tells all you need to know.
Btw, I’m 32 and am very much like your father. Be who you are and what you believe regardless of what era you’re on this Earth.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:33 am to SquatchDawg
There has always been a gray area. You are nostalgic for a time that never existed. People have always been like this, we just never saw it because we used to be separated by distance. The internet has brought everyone and everything closer together, revealing the ugly underbelly of humanity that has always been present.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:44 am to SquatchDawg
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When did we stop valuing people with moral character? It’s fricking depressing.
What the lefties are going to say: We still produce them, they just aren't your morals. Plenty of people making sure that they minimize their carbon footprint, don't misgender anyone, and so on.
What I'm going to say: the morals you speak of are Judeo-Christian morals. Do you go to a faithful conservative church regularly? If not, you've cut the foundation out from what you seek to preserve.
Oh, and I'm 50 and am very much like your dad.
This post was edited on 9/21/19 at 6:45 am
Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:44 am to SquatchDawg
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My dad is the epitome of a man who had no gray area. There’s right ... and there’s wrong. And you always do what’s right no matter how difficult it may be.
You are a manager at a company that just laid off a lot of people. You get a call from a manager at another company asking about a great worker with a loving wife and kids. You know this great man has had trouble paying bills since he was laid off. Everything about him is good except he occasionally came in late. The other manager asks you, "Is there anything about this worker that I wouldn't like?" Do you tell the truth knowing that you will be costing this exceptional man with one minor flaw a job that will provide for his family?
What about Robin Hood? If you live under an oppressive regime that is starving its own people, is it OK to steal from the elite to provide for the poor? Or do you let innocent people starve because stealing is wrong?
There is always a grey area.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:47 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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That sense of right and wrong is completely subjective. So at the end of the day, there's really no such thing as a collective and universal right and wrong.
Ladies and gentlemen, you now understand Displacedbuckeye completely.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:51 am to SquatchDawg
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Actually it’s not.
Actually it is.
Every single one of those is a result of our collective agreements as a society. They are all subjective.
But sure. Please continue.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:52 am to Flats
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Flats
The first time I see you put together an idea worth giving serious consideration, we can have a discussion.
I have yet to see that from you.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:55 am to SquatchDawg
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10 Commandments as the fundamental rule of law
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I’m not a religious guy
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:02 am to Boatshoes
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Boatshoes
Please feel free to fall on your face explaining objective morality.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:24 am to SquatchDawg
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My dad is the epitome of a man who had no gray area. There’s right ... and there’s wrong. And you always do what’s right no matter how difficult it may be.
Nazi's are asking if you are hiding any Jews, do you lie or tell the truth?
You might say that's easy, you lie. That's obviously the right choice. You've just chosen "the ends justify the means" and have opened a whole can of worms. Or, conversely, you've just sent people to their death because you refused to lie.
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We continue to vote in crooks and moral reprobates to govern us. Idiots and scumbags that are celebrated.
They've got the sheep pegged. I think our understanding of human psychology has allowed it easy to somewhat control the average person.
For a political advertisement, they're going to use the right words (determined by polling, example: say cost, not tax) certain music will be played to help invoke the feeling they want, the candidates clothing is chosen to target certain demographics.
It's all a show, but its effective for most voters.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:28 am to SquatchDawg
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But as a basis it hard to argue against the 10 Commandments as the fundamental rule of law that has evolved from antiquity to outline the rules of western civilization.
wat.
3 out of 10 commandments have made it into law, maybe 4 depending of how "honor your father and mother" is interpreted.
3-4/10?
That's an F.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:29 am to SquatchDawg
I'm sure you're familiar with jury demographics. Lawyers can determine what kind of juror they want in the selection process.
If you're a defense attorney and your client is guilty of murder but you're going to try and get him off you do not want older white guys on the jury.
It's because that demographic has a very strict sense of right v. wrong with no shades of gray. If your strategy is to obscure the truth you scratch those candidates.
If you're a defense attorney and your client is guilty of murder but you're going to try and get him off you do not want older white guys on the jury.
It's because that demographic has a very strict sense of right v. wrong with no shades of gray. If your strategy is to obscure the truth you scratch those candidates.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:35 am to Boatshoes
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What I'm going to say: the morals you speak of are Judeo-Christian morals.
God flooded the entire world, targeted first born children of a nation because their leader wouldn't listen, ordered genocide several times in the Old Testament, and even slaughtered 70000 Jews because of a mistake King David made (peacetime census - uh oh America!)
All of the above involves the killing of children.
Remind me again Christianity's stance on killing children? Anything is permissible under Christian morals if they believe God is commanding it. The end result is no different than moral relativism.
This post was edited on 9/21/19 at 7:37 am
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:46 am to Paluka
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His Dad does not believe in situational ethics or morals that are convenient. It’s called character.
So basically in Nazi Germany, dont go trying to hide at his house as a Jew.
Screw situational ethics or morals, he's not going to lie!
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:47 am to SquatchDawg
Whatever Became of Sin (actual 1973 book title by Dr Karl Menninger) (and shame)?
Legitimate and important questions in a post-modern world of moral relativism.
Dispersed, only digitally connected "communities" make it more difficult to create a sense of moral and ethical commitment and accountability to one another.
Legitimate and important questions in a post-modern world of moral relativism.
Dispersed, only digitally connected "communities" make it more difficult to create a sense of moral and ethical commitment and accountability to one another.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:49 am to Azkiger
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So basically in Nazi Germany, dont go trying to hide at his house as a Jew.
Screw situational ethics or morals, he's not going to lie!
And a world of snarky, pseudo intellectual, obtuse, turds.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:55 am to SquatchDawg
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My dad is the epitome of a man who had no gray area. There’s right ... and there’s wrong. And you always do what’s right no matter how difficult it may be
My Dad was the same. It was only as I gre older that I deeply appreciated that. I am so glad that I had the opportunity to thank him and tell him that I was proud to be his son before he passed away.
The trends in society sadden and frighten me for younger generations. They will reap what they sow.
Now get off my lawn. ??
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:56 am to Azkiger
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Remind me again Christianity's stance on killing children? Anything is permissible under Christian morals if they believe God is commanding it. The end result is no different than moral relativism.
Your ignorance in embarassing. Mea culpa though for answering a fool according to his folly. I have a hard time discerning when to refrain on that one.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:57 am to McLemore
Two replies to me so far and nothing of substance. Sad.
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