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re: When a lesbian comes out of the closet; not what you're thinking tho
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:46 am to TenWheelsForJesus
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:46 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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cis = straight. It's like calling someone a gay homosexual.
so cis = Normal....
Got it.
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:49 am to Snipe
I think "cis" means that you are born with the "parts" of the gender that you identify as.
For example, if you are born with male parts and identify as a male, you are cis. If you are born with male parts but identify as female, you are trans.
Has nothing to do with sexual orientation/preference.
straight means that you are attracted to members of the opposite sex i.e, a heterosexual.
For example, if you are born with male parts and identify as a male, you are cis. If you are born with male parts but identify as female, you are trans.
Has nothing to do with sexual orientation/preference.
straight means that you are attracted to members of the opposite sex i.e, a heterosexual.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:52 am to psk_Vol
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Conservatives in general need to get over the whole gay thing. Anyone who vocally and vehemently objects to what two consenting adults do in their bedroom is a fraud conservative. Yea, let’s have the government involved in how two consenting adults should make love.
i think you're in the wrong thread
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:54 am to Snipe
quote:cis (gender identity)quote:WTF does this even mean?
cis straight white men
straight (sexuality)
white (ethnicity)
men (physical sex)
One need not agree that the terminology is important in order to use and understand it.
Sometimes the difference between the color gold and the color amber is important and sometimes it is not. But they ARE distinct colors.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 8:51 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:57 am to psk_Vol
quote:No. They would be a “fraud” if they claimed to be a Constitutional Conservative. If they claimed to be a Social Conservative, it would be entirely consistent.
Conservatives in general need to get over the whole gay thing. Anyone who vocally and vehemently objects to what two consenting adults do in their bedroom is a fraud conservative.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 8:04 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:03 am to Wtodd
quote:Not remotely.
Someone needs to measure her for a coat.
She is the Left equivalent of a Main Street Republican voicing disagreement with David Duke. Disliking Duke does not make that fellow a Dem.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 8:06 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:09 am to NorCali
quote:
I think "cis" means that you are born with the "parts" of the gender that you identify as.
For example, if you are born with male parts and identify as a male, you are cis.
So cis means "not suffering from delusions."
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:40 am to Wtodd
If conservatives in general could agree to stand on the traditional conservative platform of “what you do is your business as long as it doesn’t harm anyone else, what I do is my business as long as it doesn’t harm anyone else, we both agree to live in peace and respect each other’s right to decide our own ways,” it would do them a world of good. I don’t agree with homosexuality as a lifestyle choice, but I’m certainly not looking for it to be outlawed. Adults ought to be able to do whatever they please as long as they don’t hurt anyone and are willing to bear whatever consequences come as a result of the choices they make. The Left, or at least a very vocal portion of it, breaches the above social agreement with their position of, “You must not only respect my right to make my own choices, you must also respect the choices that I make.” The Right, or at least a very vocal portion of it, breaches it by saying, “You have the right to make whatever choices you want, as long as you make them from a small, socially acceptable pool of options.” The first side to really, truly embrace the traditional American ideal of what freedom means will win the battle for the center.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:43 am to AggieHank86
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One need not agree that the terminology is important in order to use and understand it.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:49 am to TheTideMustRoll
I am an academic and I have several close friends that are gay and this is becoming a real issue, especially against the older members of the LGBTQ community.
The LG part of LGBT are under attack by the T part of the LGBTQ community because they are attracted to the same gender biologically and the T segment thinks they are therefore transphobic due to decisions based upon gender/biology.
The real issue here is what he been stated multiple times that the T community is incredibly vocal, incredibly hostile, and has a disproportionate level of support from other progressive because they sit atop the left wing sjw attribute pyramid. So they are now successful campaigning against the members of their community that brought LGBT rights to the forefront and in essence are fracturing that community.
When you must label and segment a community to be a part of it, at some point it splinters apart.
The LG part of LGBT are under attack by the T part of the LGBTQ community because they are attracted to the same gender biologically and the T segment thinks they are therefore transphobic due to decisions based upon gender/biology.
The real issue here is what he been stated multiple times that the T community is incredibly vocal, incredibly hostile, and has a disproportionate level of support from other progressive because they sit atop the left wing sjw attribute pyramid. So they are now successful campaigning against the members of their community that brought LGBT rights to the forefront and in essence are fracturing that community.
When you must label and segment a community to be a part of it, at some point it splinters apart.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:52 am to AggieHank86
quote:
One need not agree that the terminology is important in order to use and understand it.
Is this an aggie thing?
quote:
men (physical sex)
It would seem so.
I'll leave you to your expertise. It does give new meaning to yell practice though.
No that there is anything wrong with that.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:12 am to psk_Vol
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Conservatives in general need to get over the whole gay thing.
Most conservatives don't care what consenting adults do in private.
The need to force it down our throats and program society is one problem. (LGBT characters on every show/movie, when maybe 3-4% of the population would fit this).
Second, the trans issue is one where they want tax payers to pay for their transitions, that's a problem. The other trans issue is when parents force their kids to transition based on statements made as a 3 or 4 year old. Also a major problem. Additionally, they force the trans lifestyle onto young minds through Drag Queen Storytime. frick that bullshite.
Finally, the left is using the LGBT message to expand to include pedophilia as an acceptable form of sexual expression. Probably to cover up the crimes of a large number of the elite (Epstein). All pedos should be castrated at a minimum.
So no, as a conservative, I do not care if someone is LGB as long as their lifestyle does not infringe on my freedoms.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:12 am to laxtonto
Yeah, that’s the fault line in the Left’s position of ultra-tolerance. Everyone has limits. The tipping point, I think, will be when pedophiles publicly attempt to lump themselves in with the LGTBQ-whatever else umbrella. This is coming, it’s just a matter of time. The Left as a whole discounts the “slippery slope” argument, but I personally have never known it to fail. If you crack a door open, it won’t remain cracked forever. There is one key underlying principle at play here which will eventually bring the structure down, and it is this: there exists no objective morality. If there is no objective way for one person to tell another that they are wrong, then society in general becomes first a shouting match, and then a shooting match. We can try to scrub out history all we like, it will still destroy us.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:16 am to TheTideMustRoll
This is the end game. If a child can decide what sex he is, why can’t he decide who he has sex with
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:24 am to TheTideMustRoll
quote:The PROBLEM is that this is not THE “traditional conservative platform.”
If conservatives in general could agree to stand on the traditional conservative platform of “what you do is your business as long as it doesn’t harm anyone else, what I do is my business as long as it doesn’t harm anyone else, we both agree to live in peace and respect each other’s right to decide our own ways,” it would do them a world of good.
It is A traditional platform of SOME conservatives (small government advocates) and one they share with libertarians.
The “traditional platform” of OTHER conservatives (Social Conservatives) can be summarized as “old ways are good, and change is bad.” They DO actively oppose equal rights for gays, and they are no less “conservative” than you.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 9:33 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:32 am to AggieHank86
quote:
If conservatives in general could agree to stand on a "common sense" based conservative platform of “what you do is your business as long as it doesn’t harm anyone else, what I do is my business as long as it doesn’t harm anyone else, we both agree to live in peace and respect each other’s right to decide our own ways,” it would do them a world of good.
My take is noted above. I will also note that in my experience, this view is more the norm outside of evangelical groups.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 9:33 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:38 am to jimmy the leg
We have all seen the animated GIF that demonstrates the leftward and rightward shifts of the voters in Dem and GOP primaries, creating a chasm between the twomwhere once there was significant overlap.
I think you could do a similar GIF of shifts within the “conservative” movement. Fifty years ago, I suspect that the overlap between these two major groups within the “conservative” tent would be FAR greater than today.
In the 80s and 90s, I think that the Social,Conservatives were the more prominent/dominant. With the advent of the Tea Party, the small government advocates have been on the ascendency over the former.
I think you could do a similar GIF of shifts within the “conservative” movement. Fifty years ago, I suspect that the overlap between these two major groups within the “conservative” tent would be FAR greater than today.
In the 80s and 90s, I think that the Social,Conservatives were the more prominent/dominant. With the advent of the Tea Party, the small government advocates have been on the ascendency over the former.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 9:43 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:42 am to jimmy the leg
quote:Then you may be closer to being a libertarian than you might want to admit. You essentially outline the most-basic premise of libertarianism.
My take is noted above.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 9:45 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:02 am to AggieHank86
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conservatives (Social Conservatives) can be summarized as “old ways are good, and change is bad.”
What an insanely ignorant statement.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:04 am to AggieHank86
Then you may be closer to being a libertarian than you might want to admit. You essentially outline the most-basic premise of libertarianism.
I would define my views along the lines of being a fiscal conservative and a social libertarian.
I would define my views along the lines of being a fiscal conservative and a social libertarian.
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