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re: When a lesbian comes out of the closet; not what you're thinking tho

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Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:17 pm to
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(Social Conservativism) can be summarized as “old ways are good, and change is bad.”
What an insanely ignorant statement.
It’s a pretty accurate, albeit informal, description of textbook conservatism.
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commitment to traditional values and ideas with opposition to change or innovation.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 5:20 pm
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:32 pm to
This is how Mitt Romneys are created.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:47 pm to
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Sin is sin and everyone should repent of theirs and trust in Christ's sacrifice for salvation from the penalty those sins deserve.



And what if I don’t think homosexuality is a sin?
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:03 pm to
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And what if I don’t think homosexuality is a sin?


No problem, just don't expect others to react or interact with you like they don't think it's a sin.
Fair enough?
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 6:06 pm
Posted by psk_Vol
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:19 pm to
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Christ's sacrifice for salvation from the penalty those sins deserve


And those who truly know and accept Christ's salvation understand that his sacrifice covers all forms and types of sin, including homosexuality. The idea that homosexuality disconnects one from following and accepting Christ and inheriting eternal salvation is merely a flawed humanistic way of interpreting the teachings of Christ. Both ourselves and everyone we have ever known and loved have sinned and will continue to live with sin. A lot of Christians hide behind their faith to treat homosexuals like pieces of shite compared to other groups of people that could be lumped together based on their specific sin. Just my personal experience.

Pretty wild that since homosexuality is some grave eternal sin, that Christ himself did not teach once against it. He literally did not mention homosexuality one time in the Bible. You would think our God we follow would at least teach against it if it were such an elevated form of sin.

If you think it is a choice, I can't reason with you on this particular issue. I'll just have to trust that God knows the intentions of my heart and soul much more than any other human on this planet could.

My only point earlier in this thread was to convey that I don't want to see this country ruined by the Democrats with their reckless and godless policies because our tent refuses to expand and accept others outside of the stereotypical American conservative.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 6:28 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:20 pm to



Posted by Possumslayer
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:22 pm to
You consider yourself God?
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:29 pm to
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Pretty wild that since homosexuality is some grave eternal sin, that Christ himself did not teach once against it.


You can keep repeating this; it won't make it true.

It's no worse that adultery or a host of other sins, and some (a declining number IMO) Christians do treat it as such, but you need to look at the original Greek when Jesus talked about sexual immorality.
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:31 pm to
Strange
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Posted by psk_Vol
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:37 pm to
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It's no worse that adultery or a host of other sins, and some (a declining number IMO) Christians do treat it as such, but you need to look at the original Greek when Jesus talked about sexual immorality


Of course this is text you can't provide yourself. I'd advise to you that you might ought to look at the original Greek text when Jesus himself declares accepting him covers all of one's sin. Homosexuality is included in that sacrifice, or do you just not want any gays around you in heaven?. Anyone, yourself included, who has ever existed who has accepted Christ's salvation both sinned before and after they accepted his grace. Why single out those who sin via sexually immorality, in this case homosexuality? Is everyone who had straight premarital sex also eternally screwed as well?

Like I told the other dude, if you think it is a choice then I can't reason with you on this particular subject. That's not to say that sin of any type isn't without consequences though. I'd much rather be fully straight for a myriad of reasons and understand the consequences and realities of my sexuality.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 6:45 pm
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:40 pm to
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When a lesbian comes out of the closet; not what you're thinking tho


I know a couple of lebanese, and they're actually pretty normal people otherwise.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:41 pm to
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you need to look at the original Greek when Jesus talked about sexual immorality.
You learn something new every day, I suppose.

I was completely unaware that Jesus spoke Koine Greek at all, much less used it in his sermons to Aramaic-speaking Galilean peasants. (“porneia,” meaning something sort of like “sexual immorality).

Or maybe the Greek speaker who wrote that term was using it as a Greek speaker would use it. In that case, a Greek probably did not include a bit of buggery in his definition (hehehe).
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:42 pm to
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Of course this is text you can't provide yourself.


Yeah, it's pretty hard to come by in this day and age. And with your vast Bible knowledge.......

I don't think it's a choice for everybody, I just that's immaterial to Christianity. I don't think people choose to be attracted to pre-pubescent children either.
Posted by psk_Vol
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:51 pm to
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Yeah, it's pretty hard to come by in this day and age. And with your vast Bible knowledge


But you have for sure seen it huh? And this gives you a vast deeper understanding on why homosexuality is a special elevated form of sin that blocks someone from inheriting Christ's salvation?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:56 pm to
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No problem, just don't expect others to react or interact with you like they don't think it's a sin.
Fair enough?


That’s not a problem. It only becomes a problem when it starts to become government policy.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:58 pm to
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You consider yourself God?


Only to women.

In all seriousness, yours is an absurd response unless you consider anyone who has a moral code as someone who “considers themselves God.”
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:11 pm to
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You learn something new every day, I suppose.


I doubt you'd admit it if you did.

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I was completely unaware that Jesus spoke Koine Greek at all, much less used it in his sermons to Aramaic-speaking Galilean peasants.


It's unknown if he spoke Greek as a second language; it was pretty common for that day. 1 or 2 Maccabees was written in Greek. The Gospels were written in Greek because it was widely understood. They say what they say; if you want to argue that a first century Jew wouldn't have included gay sex in porneia, be my guest. The Greeks diddled kids, and Jesus didn't specifically condemn kiddy-diddling, so it's probably cool as well.

This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 7:12 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:12 pm to
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And this gives you a vast deeper understanding on why homosexuality is a special elevated form of sin that blocks someone from inheriting Christ's salvation?


I have no idea where you're getting this. Maybe you're confusing me with another poster.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:17 pm to
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con·ser·va·tism
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noun
commitment to traditional values and ideas with opposition to change or innovation


I reject any definition written in the last 50 years.

Innovation is not antithetical to conservatism.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:18 pm to
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if you think it is a choice then I can't reason with you on this particular subject.


So all the prison rapes are done by gays...right?
They aren't choosing to get a hard on by thinking about buttedgedging another dudes asss...right??

They were born that way?
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