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re: Whatcha Think About Trump Making Incandescents Legal Again?
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:40 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:40 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The stupid government shouldn't be telling citizens what to buy or not buy. I use 100 watt incandescent bulbs to heat my pump house and keep it from freezing on cold nights. It also provides light when needed.
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:46 pm to MrLarson
quote:Show us on the doll where the mean LED or CFL touched you ....quote:So you got some in Feb-Mar when you got your EITC or your S8 landlord put them in.
I've never had to replace an LED bulb.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:51 pm to AggieHank86
Here's the perp. Guilty as sin.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 2:42 pm to Smeg
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Wrong. It's not a "fact". It's in *theory* that they could supposedly possibly last that long. In practice - they do not. I've not had one LED bulb last 10 years. Most have failed in a year or two.
All of those claims are based on JUST the LED itself. Hook a single LED up to a nice DC source that it can handle and you'll get those 20,000 hours or whatever the claim is. People who don't understand technology point to that number and assume it applies to LED bulbs for the US market. Those bulbs have a circuit board because LEDs don't like A/C current, and if they're dimming they usually do so by PWM (rapidly turning it on and off) to reduce the light output. It's probably not the LED failing, it's the crap required to make it work in a light bulb.
To make it simple for these folks, name another appliance that you plug into a typical 110v A/C outlet that claims it'll last 15 years. Some things may last that long, but most electronics have a 1-3 year guarantee for very good reasons.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:27 pm to AUstar
quote:That's what they claim but I must keep buying defective bulbs because mine never seem to last any longer than the old ones. Because of that any energy that I'm saving is likely offset by the higher cost.
Obviously they like it when you buy bulbs that burn out in less than a year, as opposed to 10-20 years with an LED.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:39 pm to AUstar
I think it’s great. Give me a choice of cheap bulbs or expensive bulbs.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:43 pm to 93and99
Hey, they are warranteed! LOL
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:47 pm to AUstar
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They will save you about 75% on your light bill
So like $4 a month?
It isn't lights that make the utility bill expensive.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:50 pm to AUstar
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The only people pushing this were the companies that make the bulbs. Obviously they like it when you buy bulbs that burn out in less than a year, as opposed to 10-20 years with an LED.
bullshite. You don’t think they’d rather force us to buy the more expensive LEDs that NEVER last more than a couple years at best? Multinationals love these kind of regulations.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:50 pm to MintBerry Crunch
Hey, there's a bunch of light bulbs needed for a 10,000 sq/ft estate.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:26 pm to Flats
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It's probably not the LED failing, it's the crap required to make it work in a light bulb.
It doesn't really matter what part is failing. You don't replace parts on a lightbulb. If a circuit board fails, the bulb is "bad" and has to be replaced. If boards can't last more than a year, than LED bulbs don't last more than a year.
I don't care about the semantics related to theoretical life span of some individual part of a bulb.
Do you have to purchase another bulb in less than 10-20 years? If yes, then you've been scammed.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:29 pm to AUstar
Great! Thow away Obama lightbulbs. They're junk.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 4:51 pm to Smeg
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It doesn't really matter what part is failing.
I don't disagree, I'm just explaining where the erroneous claim comes from. Again, the easy question to ask people who make these claims is what other piece of electronic gear do they guarantee will always last at least 10 years? You won't get too many answers, especially in the days of almost anything with a circuit board coming from China.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 5:45 pm to AUstar
The only people pushing this were the companies that make the bulbs. Obviously they like it when you buy bulbs that burn out in less than a year, as opposed to 10-20 years with an LED.
He's thinking about unbanning them. So what? Was there anywhere that he mentioned banning LED's? If not, the market will decide between the two.
He's thinking about unbanning them. So what? Was there anywhere that he mentioned banning LED's? If not, the market will decide between the two.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:17 pm to AUstar
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LED's are better in every way that the old incandescents.
Are they though? On cost? Convenience? For certain applications where heat is desirable?
Nothing wrong with the Edison bulb.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 7:38 pm to WorkinDawg
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Someone broke an LED, called poison control about how to clean it up. Poison control sent in dudes with Hazmat suits....you can't make this shite up.
Except you did.
This story might have happened with CFL, but not LEDs.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:03 pm to AUstar
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:07 pm to Themole
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If not, the market will decide between the two.
And that obviously aggravates the hell out of some people.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:11 pm to TeLeFaWx
quote:bullshite.
your LEDs haven't last longer, you're doing something wrong. It's just a fact. It isn't sneaky marketing.
You have to read the fine print on led bulbs. They do poorly in fixtures with poor ventilation and can overheat and fail in as little as 6 months.
I had to swap both closed hall fixtures with open fixtures because they were eating LEDs like chicklets.
That's just one example and there are others to be sure where LEDs fail and the customer did nothing wrong.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 9/8/19 at 9:11 pm to AUstar
Just another stupid meaningless gesture by Trump, intended go give the finger to Obama and “environmentalists”. Little or no practical effect on us.
Pathetic, really.
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