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Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:12 pm to Madking
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Should I explain how Santa isn’t real as well?
Slot machine rigging in previous era was mechanical more than the software driven ones of today.
Ie hotwiring the machine with guitar strings or building different tools to rig the electronics based on having knowledge of the interworkings. So you need both specific knowledge and then expertise to create your own tools to do it with, and in general people got caught doing it often.
So to pull it off isn't exactly easy. And it continually gets harder as more security measures are implemented.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:26 pm to texridder
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I'm curious. If there was something obvious like this and so easily replicated then why didn't they use it as evidence instead of losing 50+ court cases?
Those cases were thrown out because the courts said none of the plaintiffs had standing. You can't introduce evidence in a case the judiciary refuses to hear.
Your idea was to show there was no way electronic voter fraud could exist, then when proven wrong you attempted to discount the proof. You've failed on both accounts so now you're 0-2 on your pointed questions.
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:47 pm to ApexTiger
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mail in his how it was stolen last time
They have about a dozen ways so if one is discovered, they say - yeah, it's bad and we should fix it, but it did not effect the outcome.
There was some good evidence in 2020 that algorithms were used in the electronic vote tabulation system to convert a percentage from Trump to biden, and that percentage changed several times through election day. Richard Syrett had a recent podcast with a guy that has analyzed voting records in NY state and found a large number of people registered in multiple counties with votes recorded in each county registered. He also found that there is an algorithm that lets him predict the county voter record number from the state voter record that should not be possible, but seems to be the way that was used to "mark" the fake registrations. He has found the same thing in other states, but using different algorithms.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:51 pm to prplhze2000
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What to do about friend who thinks computerized elections are easily rigged?
Tell him to get a woman and get laid for once.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:01 pm to LakeCharles
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They have about a dozen ways so if one is discovered, they say - yeah, it's bad and we should fix it, but it did not effect the outcome.
There was some good evidence in 2020 that algorithms were used in the electronic vote tabulation system to convert a percentage from Trump to biden, and that percentage changed several times through election day. Richard Syrett had a recent podcast with a guy that has analyzed voting records in NY state and found a large number of people registered in multiple counties with votes recorded in each county registered. He also found that there is an algorithm that lets him predict the county voter record number from the state voter record that should not be possible, but seems to be the way that was used to "mark" the fake registrations. He has found the same thing in other states, but using different algorithms.
This sounds like total fiction to me. I'm gonna say it probably is, it was when Mike the pillow claimed the same stuff
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:07 pm to prplhze2000
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What to do ...
Listen to him.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:09 pm to prplhze2000
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have a friend who is of course a radio talk show host.
Tell Kenny to namedrop TD again tomorrow
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:12 pm to prplhze2000
Non computerized elections can also be rigged. Computerized elections can and should be more secure than manual ones.
Our current system is meant to be manipulated. The lack of controls in place to prevent/identify fraud can only be intentional.
Our current system is meant to be manipulated. The lack of controls in place to prevent/identify fraud can only be intentional.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:20 pm to prplhze2000
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What do you say to that?
You're really asking that here?
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:38 pm to prplhze2000
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have a friend who is of course a radio talk show host
I stopped reading here.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:42 pm to prplhze2000
We have no way of knowing if the data entered on the front of the voting machine is the same as the roll coming out of the back of the machine at the end of voting. All the software is proprietary. So, we cannot audit the votes. Even the Louisiana Legislative Auditor said so in a recent report: "However, Louisiana’s current in-person voting systems do not produce a voter-verified paper record, which prevents DOS from conducting post-election tabulation audits." LINK see p. 5.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:54 pm to oklahogjr
From the first page of a Google search result.....
wiki
Fox 2 news
CBS news
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"Dennis Nikrasch also known by the alias of Dennis McAndrew, was a Vegas slot cheater and a former locksmith who was responsible for spearheading the biggest casino theft in Las Vegas history, by grabbing $16,000,000 from rigging slot machines over a 22-year period."
wiki
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Tommy Carmichael cheated Vegas casinos out of millions for almost 40 years by rigging slots. From humble beginnings in the TV repair industry, he became a master of manipulating the mechanics of slot games so he could cash in big. His skills granted him different cheating tools that guaranteed him big instant wins.
Over the years, the technology used to create slot machines improved and Tommy himself had to do the same. He even got to know other casino cheats, and together, they took the casinos to the cleaners for millions.
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Police say three men from Georgia were able to steal thousands of dollars from slot machines at two local bars using their phones.
Fox 2 news
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2 Pittsburgh casino employees accused of rigging video roulette table games
CBS news
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:13 pm to prplhze2000
Listen to him, he is correct
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:15 pm to McChowder
Every example there involves people with inside knowledge, or position, a special skill, or potentially both. I wouldn't call those easy. What is your threshold for easy? Mine is I could easily instruct another person to do and execute without any special knowledge, skills, or other pre requisites for that person to execute.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:17 pm to prplhze2000
Your freind is smarter than you are.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 12:02 am to prplhze2000
I'm not reading the rest of this thread and I assume my answers are similar to others.
well.. yes.. anything on the Internet can be hacked. Lots of things not on the Internet can be hacked now too. There was a huge audit that revealed tons of vulns. There has been no transparency only accusations of "election deniers" and "most secure election ever" propaganda shoved down our throats. I'm not necessarily saying I think there was or will be fraud but if i look at all the facts and had to guess I'd say there was and will be.
without a computerized election, none of this would be possible so I understand the concern. Maybe that's what you should tell your friend?
Well.... of course.
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Really thinks because elections are computerized to a large degree, they can be easily rigged.
well.. yes.. anything on the Internet can be hacked. Lots of things not on the Internet can be hacked now too. There was a huge audit that revealed tons of vulns. There has been no transparency only accusations of "election deniers" and "most secure election ever" propaganda shoved down our throats. I'm not necessarily saying I think there was or will be fraud but if i look at all the facts and had to guess I'd say there was and will be.
without a computerized election, none of this would be possible so I understand the concern. Maybe that's what you should tell your friend?
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have a friend who is of course a radio talk show host.
Well.... of course.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 12:27 am to prplhze2000
Your friend is smarter than you.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 12:55 am to prplhze2000
As someone who developed software, it’s easy AF.
The more complex the code seems to be the easier the rigging gets.
I suppose you don’t remember the vote total changes algorithms discovered after 2020. In software not connected to the internet.
If A software program needs to do barely more than n=n+1, yet it has 1 million lines of code to do that, there’s some frickery going on.
The more complex the code seems to be the easier the rigging gets.
I suppose you don’t remember the vote total changes algorithms discovered after 2020. In software not connected to the internet.
If A software program needs to do barely more than n=n+1, yet it has 1 million lines of code to do that, there’s some frickery going on.
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 12:56 am
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