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re: What or when is the breaking point for the homeless situation across major cities?
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:31 pm to NIH
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:31 pm to NIH
It’s not going anywhere. It’s a Democrat run industry. The states and cities are making billions off of it
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:40 pm to 4cubbies
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There may be some caveats, but Republicans were primarily responsible for defunding these imperfect institutions.
You have no idea what you're talking about. JFK was the first president to sign legislation that would get rid of asylums. Then in the 1970s the ACLU sued on behalf of some of the people in the asylums. These cases went to SCOTUS and SCOTUS ruled in favor of the plaintiffs. The result was it became much more difficult to get people committed.
Reagan took office not long after the last SCOTUS ruling. Since it was now impossible to get people committed, he and Congress basically defunded the asylums. What's the point in keeping them open if you don't have "customers?"
Bottom line, the asylum closures were bipartisan from the 60s to the 80s. It wasn't just Republicans.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 9:49 pm to UtahCajun
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Did he have the bi-partisan support to get it done?
I don’t know how bipartisan the congressional support was for the specific Reagan-era cuts. I know democrats at the time were interested in creating infrastructure for community- based treatment as opposed to asylums, which Reagan rolled back once elected.
quote:did it have a roux? My husband is the master chef here. He makes a mean gumbo. I think he tried to make etoufee once. Our oldest loves loves loves etouffee. I can’t remember how it turned out.
I believe I just ate the ancestor dish of crawfish ettoufee. It was Adriatic scampi with green noodles and red sauce. Taste wise, it was EXACT.
I went to high school with a girl whose parents immigrated from Croatia. Has a -vich last name. I spent the night at her house several times but her parents never cooked for us. There’s gotta be a Croatian place around here somewhere I can try.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:08 pm to NIH
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I can’t imagine Austin’s downtown is feeling the momentum it did pre-COVID.
There were plenty of homeless under I-35 years before COVID. They built a homeless shelter a block or two off of 6th street, so people can get harassed on the regular if they walk the wrong direction. Austin state hospital is not far from campus on 38th, and always had deranged shufflers milling around their campus and local hoods at 0430 when I went to Hyde Park gym.
Walking to the stadium for the 2019 3rd and 17 game from an on campus parking spot didn't shield you from the homeless. They don't care, they're compassionate, you see!
Austin has had a homeless problem for decades. Search for "Barton Creek Homeless" and witness homeowners dealing with tent cities in their backyards, throwing trash and shite all over. Here is a typical limp wristed article about some of the "unhoused." Don't dismiss it because this article only covers 63 people, 63 people can terrorize miles of residents along the route.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 2:24 am to 4cubbies
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I don’t know how bipartisan the congressional support was for the specific Reagan-era cuts. I know democrats at the time were interested in creating infrastructure for community- based treatment as opposed to asylums, which Reagan rolled back once elected
I do not have those warm, fuzzy feelings about Reagan. I was a teenager at that time. What I do know is that the destruction of asylums happened over time, during which we saw the pharma industry become what would be one of the largest lobbies in DC. If he was supposed to do whatever he was supposed to do and didn't, then why did Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden and Trump2 do nothing? We are where we are because of a long string of ineffectiveness caused by career welfare kings and queens we call politicians.
I think we both may agree on at least some of that.
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did it have a roux? My husband is the master chef here. He makes a mean gumbo. I think he tried to make etoufee once. Our oldest loves loves loves etouffee. I can’t remember how it turned out
It did have a bit of a blonde roux to thicken it. Adriatic scampi are not shrimp. They are little lobsters about the same size as crawfish and taste very similar.
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I went to high school with a girl whose parents immigrated from Croatia. Has a -vich last name. I spent the night at her house several times but her parents never cooked for us. There’s gotta be a Croatian place around here somewhere I can try.
Of that I do not know. I do know Drago's is owned by Croats and that there is a large Croat population around NOLA and that they have an annual festival in Belle Chase. Many made money in the oyster industry since it is similar to how they grow and farm mussels here.
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 2:35 am
Posted on 9/9/26 at 4:48 am to 4cubbies
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Last time I was in Atlanta, was struck by the lack of homeless people.
Because they have been corralled and herded into a single area around Woodruff Park. There are plenty of homeless they just have been moved to one area mostly where they wander around like zombies and live in filth.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 5:24 am to Taxing Authority
Ken Kesey had a huge effect on de-institutionalization.
And I actually love the movie.
And I actually love the movie.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 6:53 am to 4cubbies
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I know democrats at the time were interested in creating infrastructure for community- based treatment as opposed to asylums
So, does "community-based" (voluntary) treatment work for these addicts in Los Angeles or not?
How many billions (trillions, maybe?) have been spent since 1981?
Nothing will help these people if they don't want it. And they've proven they prefer to use drugs over stable housing, treatment and sobriety. Considering all sources (including alcohol), roughly 3/4 of American addicts ultimately recover. Some do so without any formal program. Professional treatment programs increase their chances. Both avenues of recovery require the commitment of the addict.
In Los Angeles (and other urban centers), they have concentrated themselves with like-minded people and co-enable each other. There is also an entire support structure (largely taxpayer-funded) to keep them in the addiction process AND on the streets.
I can fix a good chunk of it if you give me the power. You won't like how it looks, but it will chip into that 25% of incorrigibles - maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of them will experience improved lives, long-term.
#Facts
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 6:54 am
Posted on 9/9/26 at 7:07 am to UtahCajun
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We are where we are because of a long string of ineffectiveness caused by career welfare kings and queens we call politicians.
Agreed. Louisiana is in particularly bad shape after Jindal gutted the little bit of public mental health services that were left here.
quote:you don’t say! I never put that together, despite knowing the family’s name. When my husband (then boyfriend) and I moved here from BR, we lived in Metairie for a few years and went to the same church as the Cvitanoviches. They are a very generous family.
I do know Drago's is owned by Croats
Posted on 9/9/26 at 7:10 am to Ace Midnight
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So, does "community-based" (voluntary) treatment work for these addicts in Los Angeles or not?
I’m not suggesting that’s the best approach. I haven’t solved this problem yet.
Do you believe the government should have the power to commit citizens to institutions against their wills?
quote:I find this very hard to believe.
Considering all sources (including alcohol), roughly 3/4 of American addicts ultimately recover
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 7:13 am
Posted on 9/9/26 at 7:13 am to LSU alum wannabe
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I don’t see it. The only solution is an asylum system again. Most of those were state and charity funded. Legally it is a different world. I can’t see long term involuntary holding ever being allowed without violent crime.
Next time you talk to a school teacher ask the school teacher how many "disruptors" she has in her class of 37. Follow that question with how many "para" professionals are in the room providing help by "calming" the "disruptors".
The schools have become the asylums.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 7:23 am to 4cubbies
“ Do you believe the government should have the power to commit citizens to institutions against their wills?”(quote Cubs).
It’s analogous to ‘Stop and Frisk’. Saves lives and civilizes the community at the expense of those who are ‘sick’. It’s a matter of the letter of the law.
Sometimes there are no painless solutions re particular circumstances. Iceberg/Titanic a perfect example.
It’s analogous to ‘Stop and Frisk’. Saves lives and civilizes the community at the expense of those who are ‘sick’. It’s a matter of the letter of the law.
Sometimes there are no painless solutions re particular circumstances. Iceberg/Titanic a perfect example.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 7:31 am to RCDfan1950
I see the potential for abuse especially considering the emotional and impulsive basket case that currently occupies the White House. The government could just have dissenters committed indefinitely.
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 7:32 am
Posted on 9/9/26 at 7:41 am to 4cubbies
The government could arrest dissenters right now
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:11 am to 4cubbies
He’s a Capitalist, C; far from “basket case”. The conflict between Constitutional Republic Freedom vs Socialism (Democratic or Authoritarian) is well documented in the historical record. As our Nation struggles between the moral principles superiority of merit vs mercy, the antipathy grows. The societal largesse to even consider the plight of the unproductive and burdensome Class comes from the Productive. Take away the Productive’s incentive to produce and the largesse goes away. Along with the weak and Unproductive as Darwinian principle is the default.
And you are right to fear “abuse” as whichever Ideology holds formal power will indeed use it against their opponent. Dems proved that via Jan 6. And their tacit support of the Kirk assassination. Mangione too.
Hold to your Faith. It’s coming.
And you are right to fear “abuse” as whichever Ideology holds formal power will indeed use it against their opponent. Dems proved that via Jan 6. And their tacit support of the Kirk assassination. Mangione too.
Hold to your Faith. It’s coming.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:42 am to 4cubbies
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I find this very hard to believe.
I assume you will disregard this from radical, right-wing, Neonazi rag NPR
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:43 am to 4cubbies
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Do you believe the government should have the power to commit citizens to institutions against their wills?
If they're living in tents on sidewalks and shitting on city streets? Yes, I do.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:45 am to 4cubbies
You can see it right now in England and the far left.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:54 am to NIH
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The government could arrest dissenters right now
The government just shoots them instead.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:01 am to Ace Midnight
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Data are from the 43,026 adults (aged 18 or older) participating in the 2018 National Survey on Drug Use and Health. Based on self-reported data, we estimate prevalence of ever having a substance use problem, the percentage in recovery among those with a substance use problem, and a multivariable logistic regression model to explore associations of recovery status with demographic characteristics and lifetime mental health problems. Among adults reporting a substance use problem, we compare prevalence of substance use by recovery status, followed by a multivariable model examining associations between each substance used and being in recovery.
Based on self-reported data.
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 9:03 am
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