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re: What or when is the breaking point for the homeless situation across major cities?
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:27 pm to Dawgsontop34
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:27 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Do you not believe those people are in legitimate need? If Saul could be saved, why should we not try and save these people as well? Many homeless people have absolutely nothing. The hope of the Kingdom is for all who believe, not just those who have the same backgrounds we do.
some? sure. all? not even close.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:27 pm to 4cubbies
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St. Ronald Reagan made no mistakes
The "De-institutionalization" movement started in the late 1950's and was hardly the fault of any one President, much less Raygun's.
Biggest proponents were not Repubs, but many were on board.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:33 pm to UtahCajun
De-institutionalization was bipartisan. Reagan played a major role in gutting the federal community mental-health infrastructure that was supposed to replace the institutions after they closed.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:34 pm to NIH
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No, Republican worship of Reagan.
Well, it looks like we have found common ground.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:37 pm to 4cubbies
quote:”I’s all Reagan’s fault!”.
Missing the connection between Reagan and defunding mental institutions?
Posted on 9/8/26 at 12:50 pm to Taxing Authority
That chart tells it all.
Money spent on coddling should be spent on removing them from the streets.
But NGO`s and political grifters and their family and friends make money off of a problem they are allowing.
Money spent on coddling should be spent on removing them from the streets.
But NGO`s and political grifters and their family and friends make money off of a problem they are allowing.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:07 pm to NIH
No such thing as "breaking point" until there is political to address the 2 interrelated causes of homeless (hint: it's not poverty).
Drug abuse and mental health issues are why these folks are on the street. Until something is done to allow the the authorities to deal with these issues by institutionalizing these folks, the problem will widen and intensify.
Drug abuse and mental health issues are why these folks are on the street. Until something is done to allow the the authorities to deal with these issues by institutionalizing these folks, the problem will widen and intensify.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:12 pm to 4cubbies
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De-institutionalization was bipartisan. Reagan played a major role in gutting the federal community mental-health infrastructure that was supposed to replace the institutions after they closed.
Did he have the bi-partisan support to get it done?
On another note, you asked about Croatian cuisine. I believe I just ate the ancestor dish of crawfish ettoufee. It was Adriatic scampi with green noodles and red sauce. Taste wise, it was EXACT.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:16 pm to 4cubbies
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Republicans defunded them.
I mean this sincerely: I wish you would just get absolutely exhausted from being wrong.
If anything, deinstitutionalization was a (wrong-headed but probably well-intentioned, like much of progressivism) bipartisan issue that was slow, nuanced and took about 20 years. Really started under JFK. In California in the 1960s under Governor Reagan, there were policies pursued to curtail involuntary admissions, but these spread nationwide.
I mean, things like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest didn't happen in a vacuum. The problem was that there was no follow-up/replacement policy and no intermediate steps allowed.
So, the choice for these folks with significant substance abuse/mental health issues (and a reluctance to participate in recovery/treatment) is:
1. Ignore them and let them live on the street, or
2. Wait for them to mess up badly enough to warrant long prison/jail sentences
Because the 3rd option - involuntary confinement/treatment is largely off the table - at least for intermediate- and long-term periods.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:25 pm to 4cubbies
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Some cities are coming up with ways to make being homeless there uncomfortable.
I do not really agree with this. I know it to be true. What I do not agree with is the extremes cities go through to get rid of them.
On the other hand, take Utah. They had a homes for the homeless program. It was moderately successful, until that is, California, Oregon and Washington started bussing their homeless in. At one point, SLC was overrun with homeless. Utah sadly had to end the program. They then began shipping the homeless out. Sometimes dropping them off in the middle of nowhere.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:31 pm to NIH
quote:It’s tenable for those stealing the funds supposed to be used for the homeless crisis.
At what point do these cities realize that “compassion” for the criminally insane is not a tenable position?
My question is when are retarded arse Democrat voters going to wake up and hold their pieces of shite politicians accountable for wasting the money.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:42 pm to NIH
The vast majority of the homeless, in excess of 90% of them, are either mentally ill or drug addicts. In many cases, they’re both. The remainder of the homeless, and the single digit percentage wise, are there only to prey on the rest of them.
So the vast majority of the homeless are in most cases, legally incapable of making objective decisions about their own care. The analogy I would compare this to is would you allow a four or five year-old child to be out on the streets permanently with no adult help. Obviously the answer to this is no.
So the compassionate thing to do would be to get these people to help they need and are incapable of providing for themselves. Over the long-term I’d project that it would be also more cost-effective to forcibly detain these people in a mental home or a rehab facility, than it would be to just let them wander the streets. All of the dollars liberal cities are throwing at the problem is absolutely been wasted.
So why are the Democrats and liberals against effective compassionate care for the homeless? The only rational answer is that their party thrives on chaos and violence and it’s exactly the way they wanted in their cities. How many ballots are actually harvested from these indigents?
So the vast majority of the homeless are in most cases, legally incapable of making objective decisions about their own care. The analogy I would compare this to is would you allow a four or five year-old child to be out on the streets permanently with no adult help. Obviously the answer to this is no.
So the compassionate thing to do would be to get these people to help they need and are incapable of providing for themselves. Over the long-term I’d project that it would be also more cost-effective to forcibly detain these people in a mental home or a rehab facility, than it would be to just let them wander the streets. All of the dollars liberal cities are throwing at the problem is absolutely been wasted.
So why are the Democrats and liberals against effective compassionate care for the homeless? The only rational answer is that their party thrives on chaos and violence and it’s exactly the way they wanted in their cities. How many ballots are actually harvested from these indigents?
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:47 pm to NIH
Mental illness is a major issue in the US with very few good options available
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:54 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Do you not believe those people are in legitimate need?
The majority live that way by choice. Donations to those people go to drugs, not towards self improvement. (I'd help those in genuine need, but do you want to sort them out?)
It just ain't American to interfere with chosen 'lifesyles'.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 3:24 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Legally it is a different world. I can’t see long term involuntary holding ever being allowed without violent crime.
Not posting to argue, just to expand on what you said.
Involuntary can also be granted by a judge if the hospital proves the defendant is habitually not taking their meds. In cases where they have penchents for violence, or violent episodes, I mean.
Or that the meds they are being given can present a threat to them. In a case I witnessed about a month ago, being on meds that contained blood thinners worked in favor of the hospital seeking further institutional custody of one of the loons.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 3:31 pm to UptownJoeBrown
"Homeless"? last year a podcaster asked several homeless people about the relationship between drug use & homelessness, Everyone asked said that everyone were drug addicts.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 3:33 pm to Keltic Tiger
95%+ of homeless have no chance for recovery and need to be removed from society. The same can be said for the majority of inmates.
America will always been too weak to solve these issues and instead the functioning members of society must suffer.
America will always been too weak to solve these issues and instead the functioning members of society must suffer.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 3:59 pm to Roughneck2020
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This is definitely an advantage that China has over us. They can just shoot them and haul them off with the garbage. This is an extremely efficient and cost effective way to deal with this problem.
But let's keep in mind that China creates a homeless population through the use of their Social Cast System. If your point score drops too low, you don't have access to your funds. Can't pay the rent or morgage because the gov froze your account, you're on the streets if family can't take you in for fear of dropping their own scores.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:18 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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The only solution is an asylum system again. Most of those were state and charity funded.
/\ THIS /\ is the only solution that we are capable of implementing at this point.
if we allow the democrats to degrade normal citizenship further we may have to be the ones to go into the 'asylum' - just for protection from the riff riff.
Posted on 9/8/26 at 4:30 pm to FlySaint
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ballots are actually harvested from these indigents
THIS is 99% of their motivation = they NEED these names to put on a ballot
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