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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:49 am to Gifman
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You talk about Trump more than anyone. You tell us.
These anti-trumpers kill me, they still go after the guy two years out of office. Like many have said, the candidates that fared poorly last night were elected in primaries by their constituents yet these pathetic losers still blame Trump.
I don't get it.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Supreme Court
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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Christ, dude. Take a fricking break from the keyboard.
QFT.
We get it. You like Ron. I like Ron too.
But last night had little to do with Trump... good or bad.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:50 am to LSUisKING
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That's quite the spin...
Is this trolling or full retard?
Point is the wall didn't get fully built
And whatever did get built doesn't seem to have any national impact on curbing illegal immigration
That's obvious
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:51 am to Powerman
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Point is the wall didn't get fully built
And whatever did get built doesn't seem to have any national impact on curbing illegal immigration
That's obvious
It's also OBVIOUS that the current guy is allowing the current shite to happen. You are a PowerMoron.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:52 am to SlowFlowPro
You are 100% correct and any critical thinking observer of the facts agrees.
His tax cut was actually Ryan's tax cut.
The SCOTUS and other judges were McConnell's picks.
One of the goals of his trade war was to get better deals IN CHINA for multinational banks and multinational corporations and Phase 1 did that---prior to COVID, phase 1 facilitated hundreds of millions of dollars of investments IN CHINA by big US banks. Goldman and Chase two of the big ones. (GS had numerous alumni in Trump's administration.) Trump's reasons and talk to Americans for the tariffs he imposed on Americans on Chinese purchases were out and out fraud. It was never about bringing manufacturing jobs to the US. I told you that having had to actually dive into the issue and testify in the public forums the trade representative had but you all thought I was lying and some talking head somewhere that had never bought and sold a cup of lemon-aid was right.
Pence stood with him for four years and then would do something that was not constitutional and Trump turned on him. I doubt there is a single member of Trump's cabinet that would serve with him again. How do serve as President for four years and virtually none of your cabinet will support you again?
He left his picks in this election out to dry---McConnell owns the ones that got elected because he supplied the money to save them-not Trump. Vance is a great example.
Trump actually said this last night:
I fear Trump will be like George Wallace---he will have this base of fervent worshippers and will go third party after he doesn't get the republican nomination. He will not get the republican nomination--the money people have moved to DeSantis.
His tax cut was actually Ryan's tax cut.
The SCOTUS and other judges were McConnell's picks.
One of the goals of his trade war was to get better deals IN CHINA for multinational banks and multinational corporations and Phase 1 did that---prior to COVID, phase 1 facilitated hundreds of millions of dollars of investments IN CHINA by big US banks. Goldman and Chase two of the big ones. (GS had numerous alumni in Trump's administration.) Trump's reasons and talk to Americans for the tariffs he imposed on Americans on Chinese purchases were out and out fraud. It was never about bringing manufacturing jobs to the US. I told you that having had to actually dive into the issue and testify in the public forums the trade representative had but you all thought I was lying and some talking head somewhere that had never bought and sold a cup of lemon-aid was right.
Pence stood with him for four years and then would do something that was not constitutional and Trump turned on him. I doubt there is a single member of Trump's cabinet that would serve with him again. How do serve as President for four years and virtually none of your cabinet will support you again?
He left his picks in this election out to dry---McConnell owns the ones that got elected because he supplied the money to save them-not Trump. Vance is a great example.
Trump actually said this last night:
quote:
"Well, I think if they win, I should get all the credit. If they lose, I should not be blamed at all."
I fear Trump will be like George Wallace---he will have this base of fervent worshippers and will go third party after he doesn't get the republican nomination. He will not get the republican nomination--the money people have moved to DeSantis.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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Trump burned those bridges with the very sort of aggressive demeanor that his followers demand of all pols, now.
Politics is about making the most people possible like you and your policies. Trump's ego convinced him (and a large % of his small GOP population) that he had a mandate that he simply never did.
The problem was that working with more moderate GOPers would be seen as being an "establishment cuck" so instead he alienated them and got nothing done.
Make Republicans Democrats Again!
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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Trump burned those bridges with the very sort of aggressive demeanor that his followers demand of all pols, now.
This is revisionist history. You had the leadership of the Republican Party pushing the piss dossier in January of 2016 and you’re saying Trump alienated them?
GTFO
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:54 am to I B Freeman
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I B Freeman
Oh for fricking frick's sake!
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:54 am to Powerman
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Point is the wall didn't get fully built
And whatever did get built doesn't seem to have any national impact on curbing illegal immigration
That's obvious
sort of like a bucket with a leak that's only partially plugged?
dumbass
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:55 am to LSUisKING
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It's also OBVIOUS that the current guy is allowing the current shite to happen.
That's irrelevant.
If Trump didn't have the political will to get something more viable implemented, then he left it up to Biden to reverse.
That's on Trump. Same as all the other EOs he had to rely on because he destroyed his GOP support to get any laws passed (or repealed)
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:56 am to the808bass
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This is revisionist history. You had the leadership of the Republican Party pushing the piss dossier in January of 2016 and you’re saying Trump alienated them?
GTFO
Never Trump republicans are the new democrats. They are every bit as nasty as Trump, but never have to answer for it.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:56 am to I B Freeman
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I B Freeman
When this guy agrees with you, you know you've got the wrong take.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
As long as the Executive Order reigns supreme we will likely never see a true "legacy" left again.
Trump won election and had a majority in the House, Senate, and a majority of Governors. Yet, Republicans accomplished very little tangible, lasting policy during that time. Why? For a few reasons, but a big one was that most of what were cornerstones of Trump's election were implemented via the EO, not the legislative process.
An Administration that governs via the Executive Order will never stand the test of time. Fortunately, that applies to both "sides". Just wait until your guy gets power again, and he can use the same EO power to undo the majority of his predecessor's "accomplishments".
Curtail the over reliance on the Executive Order, demand that the legislature do their fricking jobs and legislate, and vote accordingly. We are stuck in a cycle of faux policy and hot-button issues that dictate everything but bring no substance or "legacy".
Trump won election and had a majority in the House, Senate, and a majority of Governors. Yet, Republicans accomplished very little tangible, lasting policy during that time. Why? For a few reasons, but a big one was that most of what were cornerstones of Trump's election were implemented via the EO, not the legislative process.
An Administration that governs via the Executive Order will never stand the test of time. Fortunately, that applies to both "sides". Just wait until your guy gets power again, and he can use the same EO power to undo the majority of his predecessor's "accomplishments".
Curtail the over reliance on the Executive Order, demand that the legislature do their fricking jobs and legislate, and vote accordingly. We are stuck in a cycle of faux policy and hot-button issues that dictate everything but bring no substance or "legacy".
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:56 am to Vacherie Saint
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sort of like a bucket with a leak that's only partially plugged?
Yeah...which does absolutely nothing...which is sort of SFP's point.
Without getting the full wall built who cares if he got part of it built. It's not effective if you can just go around it.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:57 am to SlowFlowPro
A lot of what he did was destroyed by Biden. Congrats, i guess? Yall cultists were willing to ruin our country over your TDS.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:57 am to Powerman
He broke SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:57 am to dgnx6
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A lot of what he did was destroyed by Biden.
Because Trump couldn't get actual laws passed and had to rely on EOs
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:58 am to dgnx6
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A lot of what he did was destroyed by Biden. Congrats, i guess? Yall cultists were willing to ruin our country over your TDS.
SFP is so happy the GOPe blocked the Trump agenda so we can get back to Republicans never winning elections.
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