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re: What Has Trump Done Wrong Re: Covid?

Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:14 am to
He did too much.

He actually recommended shutting down at one point, which resulted in him signing a stimulus bill which dwarfed Obama’s.

I oppose both of those actions.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125784 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:15 am to
Hear hear.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3265 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:19 am to
A Republican PAC would have gotten a great return had they ran a ad campaign against the Democrats narrative that Trump Administration did a bad job on Covid response. That is all the Democrats have run on with all their campaigns and a response campaign would have bankrupted every Democrat of ideas.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28845 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:35 am to
quote:

If you blame Trump for not stopping COVID,


I would never blame him for not stopping COVID.

But if he loses Tuesday, I absolutely will blame him for not being able to show a little more empathy and letting Democrats like Joe Biden get away with using a fricking mask as a political weapon. He could have encouraged Americans early on to wear one and not added fuel to that fire.

And the Rose Garden event in September was pure fricking political stupidity. Many attendees ended up getting the virus. The whole thing probably didn't get him a single vote he wouldn't have gotten. Instead, it portrayed him as being defiant in the face of mask recommendations and a poor leader...having an event that flies in the face of all recommendations, and then a bunch of people testing positive as a result. Sure, it played well with his base, but who gives a shite? They're voting for him anyway. There are only a total of about 10,000-100,000 voters in MI, WI, PA who matter in this election, assuming Trump wins the rest of the states he won in 2016.


And predicting a vaccine before election day was stupid. It just plays into perception that it's being rushed along and gives the Dems more ammo...ammo that could resonate with that tiny sliver of voters.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 10:40 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55435 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:39 am to
He trusted experts that were wrong. However, this was a novel virus, so there was a lot to learn quickly.

What still annoys me is that he constantly gets grief for 200K deaths, when a lot of those could have been avoided had Democrat leaders followed guidelines. Now those same leaders that had people killed are openly celebrated in the media. It is unreal and downright evil.

Couple that with the fact that these same MSM idiots said the US would see 2M+ deaths, you would think they would say Trump saved millions of Americans. If Obama was POTUS, no doubt that would be the narrative.

You can always count on leftists to be wrong with everything then be unaccountable. This is where we are, ultimately.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28845 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:43 am to
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Couple that with the fact that these same MSM idiots said the US would see 2M+ deaths


Oh, there's no doubt that the MSM are idiots.

But how many people do you think are gonna die? It's about 1% mortality rate, right?

Are 200 million going to end up being infected at some point? 300 million? There's your 2 million dead.

What do you predict the final death toll will be?
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41405 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:47 am to
I honestly don't know OP, but what I do know is Trump is correct by saying we have the most cases because we are testing the most. We were no doubt testing more than any other nation. We probably had the most accurate reporting on COVID, or at least Top 5. Lockdown or not, this was going to make it was through us and it still will. Blaming Trump for everything was ridiculous.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46484 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:48 am to
Have You seen the latestbreakdowns from the CDC?

Only 6% of recorded covid deaths are actual covid deaths. Over 20% were heart attacks. Doctors are ringing up covid "death" numbers to cash in on the 20% Medicare premium granted through the cares act.

If this were a dem administration, the US would be lauded for this performance.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9403 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:55 am to
quote:

He's made a large, vocal portion of the population (his base) think COVID is basically a bad cold.


The problem with this is it appears most people in high places like trump believe this still. On both sides. as of 10/29/20, I do not think this virus is as bad as THEY want you to believe it is because of how THEY act when they don't think anyone is watching.


You have Pelosi getting a haircut sans mask

All the media types caught off camera without masks

THE frickING FAUCI DUDE SITTING IN A BALLPARK WITHOUT A MASK

They do not even believe their own bullshite lie. That's my problem with it. Their actions DO NOT show this thing is a bad deal.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 10:57 am
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2476 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:57 am to
Just listen to The old hags on The View and he did everything wrong. The View just had NY's Gov. Cuomo and he said Trump blames China too much and it did not come from China directly to the US. The virus came through Europe cause Trump did not shut down travel from Europe. What logic they have. Cuomo said the Fed. GOv should have had a nationwide plan and not let each state deal with it. What if the Fed. Gov was wrong then?

I like the fact he let each state handle it on its own and not do a one size fits all Fed. Gov. regulation. This gives more case studies for science to look at in the future for best and worse practices.

We are lucky during the Impeachment, Trump did not throw his hands up and give up like Clinton did.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 10:59 am
Posted by Haydo
DTX
Member since Jul 2011
3005 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:03 am to
I get what you're saying and like everything, all politicans are hypocritical bullshitters.

But this is no way shape or form should have any political tilt to it. That's where Trump has also failed and the Dems poured gas on to the fire. Again, my whole point is Trump's lack of ability to be a leader in having us act as a single unified people against the spread of a virus.


Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28845 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Only 6% of recorded covid deaths are actual covid deaths. Over 20% were heart attacks. Doctors are ringing up covid "death" numbers to cash in on the 20% Medicare premium granted through the cares act.


I lost a good friend two nights ago who was in his late sixties who yes, did have a history of heart trouble, but if he hadn't had COVID, he absolutely would be alive today. He was hospitalized for the last 10 days and intubated. So spare me this bullshite.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9403 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:14 am to
quote:

my whole point is Trump's lack of ability to be a leader in having us act as a single unified people against the spread of a virus.



No matter what he did, the narrative would have been bad.

thats all im saying.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5917 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:21 am to
First, the WHO. They diddled for three weeks while China exported this plague from Wuhan.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6780 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:23 am to
Talked to Bob Woodward and contradicted some of the things he said in public.

Majority of people aren’t buying he didn’t want to cause a panic.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 11:24 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85915 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:24 am to
quote:

People aren’t buying he didn’t want to cause a panic.
Still got a thousand bucks of buttwhipe in your basement?
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14784 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:26 am to
quote:

I lost a good friend two nights ago who was in his late sixties who yes, did have a history of heart trouble, but if he hadn't had COVID, he absolutely would be alive today. He was hospitalized for the last 10 days and intubated. So spare me this bull shite.



I hear ya. I don’t understand how people can not see this ... doesn’t mean you want drastic lockdowns or mandates , but it is worse than a cold or flu for many . Not just deaths either . Hell I don’t want to spend 3 weeks in a hospital , survive and hear “yea but he didn’t die “ bs
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
23111 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:29 am to
I love how Sleepy's COVID-19 message basically boils down to this:

Biden: *visibly shaken* I w-would listen to the s-s-scientists!! Trump didn't!
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16111 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:29 am to
The deaths are not because of the president. That is just hogwash to blame him. Each death has its own set of circumstances.
Only idiots would blame him. Frankly, Shame on the democrats And the Main St Media for blaming him.

Politically though, trump bungled this thing. He could have used this like Bush used 911 as a rallying cry. He fed into the divisiveness though.

He should have called a joint task force to address it. Bring reps from both sides of the aisle to address it.

He should have given a serious tone to the issue without harping on it. All he had to do was give it credibility without being alarmist.
He could have bolstered the universally accepted practices of masking, distance, hand washing and general avoidance.
At the same time, he could have done what he did which is stay positive and advocate for personal freedom. He should have made it clear every chance he got that the fed government cannot mandate these things but he supports the practice.

The deaths we’re going to happen. They were accelerated I think but we’d have 225,000 deaths before 12 months anyway.

Trumps downfall is his willingness to take risks and his willingness to engage in conflict. He fed right into the divisive tone that dems set but he could have avoided it if he’d have set a cooperative tone from the whitehouse
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 11:33 am
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10143 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:29 am to
Not one human on earth can stop a virus from spreading.
See the last 5000 year's of earth's pestilence and disease.
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