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What happens when no one trusts elections anymore?

Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:10 am
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10319 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:10 am
Everyone I talk to (even normies) joke about elections not mattering and believing the whole thing is rigged or outright fraudulent.

How does the state reconcile with that? No one seems to trust their system no matter how many times they send Anderson Cooper out there to scold them for believing othwrwise.

Isn't "trust" the most important factor in democratic elections?

Do the ones we entrust to conduct our elections of our leaders have a plan to make people trust elections again? Or is the plan to keep throwing dissenters in jail, silencing them on social media, and having CNN talking heads scold them for wrongthink?

And you can argue all day long how elections are completely legitimate, but that does not matter one bit. If the majority of the country doesn't believe it, you still have a problem even if you are insistent the process is fullproof.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5523 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:13 am to
What do you mean when?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295792 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:13 am to
There are legit reasons for the low voter turnout in most elections.

Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7457 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:13 am to
Paper ballots on election day only if we really want trustworthy elections. Voters must produce a valid ID.

Ballots that can be audited and counted by any voter or group that would like to do so after the election.

Examining the resistance to this reasonable idea will tell you all you need to know.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 11:15 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64034 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:13 am to

Ever consider the left wants the election process boogered up and chaotic? Creating chaos and destroying the current system is the foremost goal of those who want to mega-centralize everything.


Right now elections are managed locally....a lot of folks hate local control in Washington DC.


Defunding the police was also a means of centralizing control.

Defunding the police ---->create chaos---->people beg for big government to step in and make things safe---> big government permanently takes over local jurisdictions and further centralizes their power.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103115 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:14 am to
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How does the state reconcile with that? No one seems to trust their system no matter how many times they send Anderson Cooper out there to scold them for believing othwrwise.


If no one believes, they will be just blatant with how bad they are cheating yet claim it works.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:15 am to
People will see the government as illegitimate therefore they don't need to follow the rules set forth by the government. Government disagrees. You get disobedience. You then get crackdown. Government will always go too far. Then you get violence, chaos, and society ceases to function. At that point the government probably doesn't survive.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9742 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:18 am to


This would be a decent start to remedying some of our problems.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67413 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:23 am to
Most of the rational adults believe that elections matter and are not rigged. They also know that candidates they don’t like sometimes win. I just saw it happen in Louisiana. Nothing was rigged. Misinformed voters just voted differently than I.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15720 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Everyone I talk to (even normies) joke about elections not mattering and believing the whole thing is rigged or outright fraudulent.


Well, just a cursory look at this thing (Excluding the possibility of cheating with fake votes)and I would say that Americans in fact do not have a choice to select their own leaders in free and fair elections.

Actually Americans are given a predetermined very narrow list of options to make them think that they have choices but they don't. In reality the choice has already been made by the corporations that own this country and most other industrialized countries too.

We don't have choices we have options. The last real chance we had at a choice was 2016 and boy they'll never let that happen again. The voters can't be trusted to do what's right for the big corporations.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6584 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:35 am to
quote:

What happens when no one trusts elections anymore?


No one votes.

quote:

How does the state reconcile with that?


reconcile? as if it's not intended?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135504 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Isn't "trust" the most important factor in democratic elections?
Yes. It is probably more important than election integrity itself.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:45 am to
quote:

What happens when no one trusts elections anymore?


Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
26271 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:46 am to
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Most of the rational adults believe that elections matter and are not rigged.


No. It’s irrational to look around today, and choose to believe that everything is above board.

If you are honest, it’s impossible to miss the cognitive dissonance you rationalize away in the hope that you’ll be perceived as “rational.”
When in actuality, lying to yourself is about the most irrational thing you could ever do.

Your idea about what America is, is incongruent with what it has become.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:47 am to
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You get disobedience

We are just about to this point. This next election will tell us all we need to know.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4597 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:49 am to
Add-in the coming economic collapse, and things will get nasty WAY before the election.

That is why it will be cancelled.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56669 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:50 am to
Hopefully it results in the people rising up against the government!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61971 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:03 pm to
Worrying about the ramifications of what happens when people don’t trust election misses the real point.

When elections don’t matter, what the people think also doesn’t matter.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9284 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:04 pm to
Then the elites fight for power within, until the hierarchy is established



Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5523 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Most of the rational adults believe that elections matter and are not rigged.


You do realize that what you just posted is complete and total BS right? 70% believe the election was not legit. You are lying and know it. If we want BS broadcast on here we will rattle your cage.
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