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What happens when no one trusts elections anymore?
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:10 am
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:10 am
Everyone I talk to (even normies) joke about elections not mattering and believing the whole thing is rigged or outright fraudulent.
How does the state reconcile with that? No one seems to trust their system no matter how many times they send Anderson Cooper out there to scold them for believing othwrwise.
Isn't "trust" the most important factor in democratic elections?
Do the ones we entrust to conduct our elections of our leaders have a plan to make people trust elections again? Or is the plan to keep throwing dissenters in jail, silencing them on social media, and having CNN talking heads scold them for wrongthink?
And you can argue all day long how elections are completely legitimate, but that does not matter one bit. If the majority of the country doesn't believe it, you still have a problem even if you are insistent the process is fullproof.
How does the state reconcile with that? No one seems to trust their system no matter how many times they send Anderson Cooper out there to scold them for believing othwrwise.
Isn't "trust" the most important factor in democratic elections?
Do the ones we entrust to conduct our elections of our leaders have a plan to make people trust elections again? Or is the plan to keep throwing dissenters in jail, silencing them on social media, and having CNN talking heads scold them for wrongthink?
And you can argue all day long how elections are completely legitimate, but that does not matter one bit. If the majority of the country doesn't believe it, you still have a problem even if you are insistent the process is fullproof.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:13 am to burger bearcat
What do you mean when?
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:13 am to burger bearcat
There are legit reasons for the low voter turnout in most elections.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:13 am to burger bearcat
Paper ballots on election day only if we really want trustworthy elections. Voters must produce a valid ID.
Ballots that can be audited and counted by any voter or group that would like to do so after the election.
Examining the resistance to this reasonable idea will tell you all you need to know.
Ballots that can be audited and counted by any voter or group that would like to do so after the election.
Examining the resistance to this reasonable idea will tell you all you need to know.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 11:15 am
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:13 am to burger bearcat
Ever consider the left wants the election process boogered up and chaotic? Creating chaos and destroying the current system is the foremost goal of those who want to mega-centralize everything.
Right now elections are managed locally....a lot of folks hate local control in Washington DC.
Defunding the police was also a means of centralizing control.
Defunding the police ---->create chaos---->people beg for big government to step in and make things safe---> big government permanently takes over local jurisdictions and further centralizes their power.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:14 am to burger bearcat
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How does the state reconcile with that? No one seems to trust their system no matter how many times they send Anderson Cooper out there to scold them for believing othwrwise.
If no one believes, they will be just blatant with how bad they are cheating yet claim it works.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:15 am to burger bearcat
People will see the government as illegitimate therefore they don't need to follow the rules set forth by the government. Government disagrees. You get disobedience. You then get crackdown. Government will always go too far. Then you get violence, chaos, and society ceases to function. At that point the government probably doesn't survive.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:18 am to burger bearcat
This would be a decent start to remedying some of our problems.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:23 am to burger bearcat
Most of the rational adults believe that elections matter and are not rigged. They also know that candidates they don’t like sometimes win. I just saw it happen in Louisiana. Nothing was rigged. Misinformed voters just voted differently than I.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:24 am to burger bearcat
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Everyone I talk to (even normies) joke about elections not mattering and believing the whole thing is rigged or outright fraudulent.
Well, just a cursory look at this thing (Excluding the possibility of cheating with fake votes)and I would say that Americans in fact do not have a choice to select their own leaders in free and fair elections.
Actually Americans are given a predetermined very narrow list of options to make them think that they have choices but they don't. In reality the choice has already been made by the corporations that own this country and most other industrialized countries too.
We don't have choices we have options. The last real chance we had at a choice was 2016 and boy they'll never let that happen again. The voters can't be trusted to do what's right for the big corporations.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:35 am to burger bearcat
quote:
What happens when no one trusts elections anymore?
No one votes.
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How does the state reconcile with that?
reconcile? as if it's not intended?
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:37 am to burger bearcat
quote:Yes. It is probably more important than election integrity itself.
Isn't "trust" the most important factor in democratic elections?
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:45 am to burger bearcat
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What happens when no one trusts elections anymore?

Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:46 am to VOR
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Most of the rational adults believe that elections matter and are not rigged.
No. It’s irrational to look around today, and choose to believe that everything is above board.
If you are honest, it’s impossible to miss the cognitive dissonance you rationalize away in the hope that you’ll be perceived as “rational.”
When in actuality, lying to yourself is about the most irrational thing you could ever do.
Your idea about what America is, is incongruent with what it has become.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:47 am to POTUS2024
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You get disobedience
We are just about to this point. This next election will tell us all we need to know.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:49 am to Elblancodiablo
Add-in the coming economic collapse, and things will get nasty WAY before the election.
That is why it will be cancelled.
That is why it will be cancelled.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:50 am to burger bearcat
Hopefully it results in the people rising up against the government!
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:03 pm to burger bearcat
Worrying about the ramifications of what happens when people don’t trust election misses the real point.
When elections don’t matter, what the people think also doesn’t matter.
When elections don’t matter, what the people think also doesn’t matter.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:04 pm to burger bearcat
Then the elites fight for power within, until the hierarchy is established
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:32 pm to VOR
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Most of the rational adults believe that elections matter and are not rigged.
You do realize that what you just posted is complete and total BS right? 70% believe the election was not legit. You are lying and know it. If we want BS broadcast on here we will rattle your cage.
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