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What happens when AI kills? Now we know... it contributed to the school deaths in Iran

Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:41 am
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
11655 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:41 am
(gizmodo.com) Palantir AI tool contributed to US strike killing 123 Iranian children

(unable to embed the bloomberg article and may be paywalled anyway)

Already, too much trust in AI --

Back in February, two Tomahawk missiles hit Shajarah Tayyebeh Elementary School in the southern Iranian town of Minab on the opening day of the Iran war. The blasts killed more than 150 people, including at least 123 children.

Earlier reporting already pointed to outdated targeting data and raised questions about whether artificial intelligence had a role in the mix-up. And now, a Bloomberg investigation published Friday fills in more of the story, citing officials involved in an unreleased internal Pentagon review. Those officials said some Pentagon personnel knew within hours that the United States had hit the school, and they described a cascade of preventable failures that included an overreliance on an AI tool built by Palantir.

[It wasn't the only reason... and everyone is trying to avoid blame but it was still one of the great tragedies of this conflict]
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
12011 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:49 am to
Welp, kids died. That means we have to give up on the most powerful technology ever invented and fall behind. It's the only logical solution.
Posted by BrianKellysbuyout
Member since Nov 2025
2357 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:51 am to
Was this the one where they blamed Iran?
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
963 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:55 am to
Dindu nuffin is now Ai did it
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
43846 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:56 am to
Bloomberg cites unnamed officials. Must be true.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Ray Bans for Max Polarization
Member since Sep 2003
141260 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:00 am to
quote:

What happens when AI kills?
Is your implication that "AI killed" because it ignored updated information?

My understanding every single target was reviewed. We had bad information in that instance.

What would lead to the presumption that non-AI assisted targeting would have somehow recognized the erroneous information in this singular sortie out of >10,000 flown?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60622 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:02 am to
I’m glad ai can train on Iran so it will be prepared to work on domestic terrorists



Like white people with expired inspection stickers
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70705 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:06 am to
CNN reported it almost started a war with China.
LINK
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56846 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Welp, kids died. That means we have to give up on the most powerful technology ever invented and fall behind. It's the only logical solution.


When Elon Musk did an interview with the Financial Times a few weeks ago he predicted an AI Golden Era. Musk has also said on numerous occasions that AI could potentially be used by bad actors to commit all sorts of chaos, destruction and mayhem. TBD.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
11655 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Is your implication that "AI killed" because it ignored updated information?



Nope - nor did it pull the trigger.

My only note was it is that it happened, and we often trust computers (and now AI) too much.

The vendor said it was 'garbage in / garbage out' -- that their system does provide the 'data', just the analysis.

Well apparently, there was inconsistency with data provided:

quote:

After the strike, Palantir added features that “re-review underlying intelligence to identify factors that would disqualify a target and flag inconsistencies and inaccuracies that human review may have missed,” a person familiar with the work said. That new functionality is said to have already caught some anomalies.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
11655 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:23 am to
quote:

CNN reported it almost started a war with China.

Your right Bunk... though, I thought using the 'almost started a war' to be a dramatic retelling. I may be incorrect though.

Fortunately, the error was discovered before anything occurred.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
20700 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:35 am to
Jr analyst burned himself with call and shipping data wrongly placed into AI. Goes in wrong, comes out wrong.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
84114 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:44 am to
quote:

That means we have to give up on the most powerful technology ever invented and fall behind. It's the only logical solution.



It’s a good thing we didn’t ban electricity after it killed several people in the 1800s.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
38891 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Welp, kids died. That means we have to give up on the most powerful technology ever invented and fall behind. It's the only logical solution.

Yeah people don't seem to understand that we're on an irreversible path. There's no putting the djinn back in its vessel at this point, and the event horizon has been crossed.

AI is the future and is now being used to make itself better. Whoever wins the AI race is going to rule the world. Watch China, because they're embracing it and doing things that the general public in America cannot even dream of because we're too busy resisting it and the government wants to keep it to themselves and the big tech corporations.

We're more than likely going to be subjugated by AI at some point in the near future but you have to ask if you would rather it be our AI or the AI developed by Chini or the Jeets or someone else. We don't know what our own AI will do to us, but we can look at what the Chinese do to the Uyghurs and get a pretty solid idea of how their AI will treat us. Chini, since Mao and even before, has made no effort to hide their intentions to rule the world in its entirety. And while they're spending a third of what the US spends per student, they're producing a veritable army of genius kids to handle the future while we in the USA are producing almost nothing but "teen takeover" crowds and morons.

Prognosis: bleak.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
27792 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 11:25 am to
Grok says:

quote:

The school sat adjacent to (and was historically linked to) an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) naval facility associated with the Asef Brigade/missile unit and related support buildings in Minab. Satellite imagery indicates the school structure was once integrated into the broader complex but was walled off by around 2015–2016 and functioned as a civilian educational site afterward, with visible murals, sports areas, and other school features. It belonged to a network of schools (Persian Gulf Martyrs’ Cultural Educational Institute) with IRGC ties and had a documented online presence with photos of students and activities. Some students were children of base personnel; many others were local (Minab has a significant Baluch population).
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/22/26 at 11:27 am to
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What happens when AI kills? Now we know... it contributed to the school deaths in Iran


Know what contributed to it more? The Iranians building a military base surrounding the school so they could use kids as human shields.
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