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re: What do we think RFK will actually do regarding our food?

Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:18 am to
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:18 am to
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Absolutely not. If you can type on a keyboard, you have access to the same dietary info that dieticians do.


Dieticians are wrong. Where do you think they get their info from? They are taught and then push down the garbage from US dietary guidelines (and worse). But you want people to access the same information? Like I said, that's what's killing them. And this information is affecting people as children, messing up their health, their knowledge, etc.

The entire area of nutrition research is a disaster. Decades ago people at places like Harvard were bought off and told to produce statements that ran counter to actual science (that never made it into position statements etc). This is the information that is at these people's fingertips, the same stuff that dieticians get.

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Saving incompetent people is how we got where we are. The nanny state is a direct afront to natural evolution.


No one can know all the things needed to optimize his life. The nanny state is not the root problem. It's corruption. That's the root problem. The FDA is captured, USDA is captured. Harvard is captured. The AMA and many others. The American College of Cardiology once published guidelines for statins that would have small children on statin meds. That is the information that is at people's fingertips - consensus statements, position papers, guidelines, etc.

It's corruption, not the nanny state. I'm not advocating for the nanny state, but the issue is corruption. There are a very few voices in the wilderness trying to upend this mess and it takes many people decades to sift through and figure out all the corruption and bad data they've been fed over the years.

Go look at this history and especially the problems in nutrition literature and get back to me about this magical information solution. And when you finish doing that, let me know how the typical doctor behaves when a patient says something like "cholesterol does not cause heart disease" or "this diet has too many carbs". And then go look at the nutrition block taught in places like med school. The system is broken, as is the information that underpins the system. You're asking people to go find the same information that the "experts" are feeding them and harming them with. That won't work.

A lady was on Tom Woods youtube channel a couple days ago talking about this. She mentioned how some papers were put together (systematic reviews) and how the authors intentionally put things in specific parts of the paper in order to obfuscate and massage the results. That's corruption.

I agree that people should be informed, but they must be provided quality information from which they can make quality decisions - not stuff that is akin to fiction, paid for and created by Big Pharma, or Big Sugar, etc.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298371 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:20 am to
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No one can know all the things needed to optimize his life.


Lets just depend on govt to make our choices for us then.

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16381 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:22 am to
He puts a sceptical eye on the process and requires another level of accountability

This will be one of the most important trump appointments. Truly shatters the mold
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:22 am to
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Dieticians are wrong.


If my dietician tells me “calories in, calories out,” will keep my weight at maintenance, are they wrong?
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:23 am to
The highlight of my elementary school experience was when I moved to the south and learned what a big tray of cafeteria peach cobbler was all about !
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39825 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:24 am to
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If my dietician tells me “calories in, calories out,” will keep my weight at maintenance, are they wrong?
They're not wrong, but there's more to health than just weight.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298371 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:24 am to
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The highlight of my elementary school experience was when I moved to the south and learned what a big tray of cafeteria peach cobbler was all about !


I think I know what I'm gonna have for a dessert today... Thanks!
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6474 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:25 am to
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They certainly know more than your elected politician who spent three years in private law practice.



Politicians make decisions based off of "expert opinion" and "following the science." These sources are little more than propaganda produced by the food industry. They buy off researchers. No different than climate scientists.

America has kids with type 2 diabetes for goodness sake. That should be setting off alarm bells all over the place, but people just take it in stride like it's just that natural course of the first world. It's not. It's a corrupted industry maximizing profits at the expense of public health and security.

Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:26 am to
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They're not wrong, but there's more to health than just weight.


If they tell me that I need to prioritize my protein and fiber intake as I age, are they wrong?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20180 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:27 am to
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I hope nothing regarding food.


Man that is a moronic take!

Yeah let’s just keep adding poison in food, hurr durr durr I am a libertarian, hurr durr durr food Nannie’s.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39825 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:28 am to
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I agree that people should be informed, but they must be provided quality information from which they can make quality decisions - not stuff that is akin to fiction, paid for and created by Big Pharma, or Big Sugar, etc.
Quite literally, the government is on the verge of adopting new diet recommendations that rank lucky charms above a boiled egg (WAY above) for healthful eating.

LINK
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6474 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:30 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298371 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:30 am to
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Man that is a moronic take!


Whatever authority you give the State will be used against you when the opposition comes to power.

This is a lesson yall should have learned by now.


Govt authority always will work against good, decent people.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20180 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:33 am to
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Saving incompetent people is how we got where we are. The nanny state is a direct afront to natural evolution.


So I guess you are all for just disbanding the USDA and the FDA. I mean why do we need them being “Nannie’s”
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36584 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:34 am to
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authority always will work against good, decent people.

Always? Then be sure to refrain from calling the government on 911 if it looks like you’re about to be murdered with a baseball bat.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298371 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:34 am to
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So I guess you are all for just disbanding the USDA and the FDA


If you want the nanny state, why dont you do it at a state level?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20180 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:35 am to
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Whatever authority you give the State will be used against you when the opposition comes to power.

This is a lesson yall should have learned by now.


Govt authority always will work against good, decent people.


Let’s just get rid of all governmental functions. Be a Lord of the Flies type situation. Basically go back to medieval days but with WiFi.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39825 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:35 am to
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If they tell me that I need to prioritize my protein and fiber intake as I age, are they wrong?
Depends on your source of protein.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298371 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:35 am to
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Always?


Your government favors the losers. Not the winners.

Idiocy comes with the nanny state.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20180 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:35 am to
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If you want the nanny state, why dont you do it at a state level?


Why recreate the wheel, we already have California dictating emission standards…..
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