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re: What do we think RFK will actually do regarding our food?

Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:12 pm to
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I am saying that taxpayers shouldn't be paying for crappy cheap food which causes significant chronic health conditions when consumed over time, leading to costly and avoidable diseases which taxpayers then have to pay to take care of. They can limit what can be purchased by EBT to healthy items only.


I agree with that. But why introduce minorities to make a point? Poor people on public assistance come in all stripes. Poor people making poor choices are the problem and the bolded part of your statement above addresses that issue. If the Trump administration were to make that the rule of EBT I would personally love it. No more Cheetos, sodas, crackers, candies, fast food etc... You can have an apple, cheese, nuts and tofu. People will bust their butts just to get a job and buy the snacks again.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:15 pm to
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Is anyone else shocked that two weeks after the election that was won by “look at how much I pay at the grocery store,” that now we’re all willing to enact sweeping changes to our food supply that will massively increase the cost of food?


Even better, they're also saying we need to be more like Europe
Posted by texag7
College Station
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:17 pm to
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that now we’re all willing to enact sweeping changes to our food supply that will massively increase the cost of food?


So using way less ingredients will make the cost more? Please explain that one for the group
Posted by 19
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:18 pm to
If all he ever does is remove corn syrup as a sweetner from USDA certification, and they're forced to use sugar here like Europe, Canada, and Mexico- that's a fricking epic win.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:19 pm to
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So using way less ingredients will make the cost more? Please explain that one for the group


Are you serious? Do you think companies use synthetic ingredients and preservatives as some sort of Illuminati-level conspiracy theory to make us all sick?

They use preservatives and additives precisely to make them last longer on the shelf and reduce cost to the consumer in order to be more attractive than the much more expensive alternative(s) with natural, high quality ingredients.
Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:20 pm to
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Inform the people, let them make better choices.

If they dont, then why do we want to save them?



Or they can just take the shite that causes cancers and other diseases out of food.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:22 pm to
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Or they can just take the shite that causes cancers and other diseases out of food.


Pretty much everything, in some people.

Once you give govt these broad powers, they will absolutely be used against you.

If yall understand that and are ok with it, then proceed. RFK has progressive tendencies, and this is a progressive ideal.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 12:23 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:22 pm to
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So using way less ingredients will make the cost more? Please explain that one for the group


You need to think about this attempted gotcha

Or just explain to me if 1 lb or prime ribeye costs the same as 1 lb of chicken breast
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:23 pm to
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Or they can just take the shite that causes cancers and other diseases out of food.


Ok groomer
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:23 pm to
Natural ingredients do not inherently cost more. What are you talking about?

HFCS fluctuates to being slightly cheaper to more expensive than real sugar depending on the year.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Natural ingredients do not inherently cost more. What are you talking about?


Does it cost more to raise free range chickens or farmed? Does it cost more to bring organic milk to market? Does grass fed or feed-lot beef cost more? If a grocery deli makes bread with organic flour and butter does it cost more than mass-produced enriched/bleached flour and vegetable oil?
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 12:26 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41288 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Or just explain to me if 1 lb or prime ribeye costs the same as 1 lb of chicken breast


Your analogies are always so terrible.

Antibiotic free chicken is more expensive because it is marketed as a premium product and is farmed on a much smaller scale. Not because it costs way more money to not put antibiotics and growth hormones in them.
Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:26 pm to
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They use preservatives and additives precisely to make them last longer on the shelf and reduce cost to the consumer in order to be more attractive than the much more expensive alternative(s) with natural, high quality ingredients.


Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:26 pm to
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Antibiotic free chicken is more expensive because it is marketed as a premium product and is farmed on a much smaller scale. Not because it costs way more money to not put antibiotics and growth hormones in them.


No, it’s more expensive because you can raise way fewer of them per square foot than if you pump them full of antibiotics. Therefore your yield is much lower.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Does grass fed or feed-lot beef cost more?


As someone in this industry it costs less to raise grass fed beef. They yield a lower carcass weight on average and the beef is marketed as a premium product.

You are extremely uneducated.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:30 pm to
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As someone in this industry it costs less to raise grass fed beef. They yield a lower carcass weight on average and the beef is marketed as a premium product.

You are extremely uneducated.


So grass-fed beef costs more is what you’re saying?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41288 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:32 pm to
My argument is grass fed beef cost less to raise. You were trying to argue grass fed beef cost more because the process of raising them is more expensive which is not accurate.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476284 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:32 pm to
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As someone in this industry it costs less to raise grass fed beef. They yield a lower carcass weight


Which has the lower cost per oz yielded ?
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:32 pm to
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You were trying to argue grass fed beef cost more because the process of raising them is more expensive which is not accurate.


Where did I say that?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:33 pm to
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Natural ingredients do not inherently cost more.


Why do you think they using chemical alternatives? For fun?
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