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What crime do they think TRUMP committed? Need a specific provision of the US Code.

Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:04 am
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:04 am
TRUMP has committed no crime. If the house cannot identify any specific provision of the US code he violated, they MUST NOT IMPEACH!

HAIL TRUMP!
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120165 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:05 am to
Being orange and bad is a crime
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89476 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:07 am to
USC Title 18, Sec. Orange Man Bad and USC Title 18, Sec. How Dare He
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15035 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:10 am to
Federal law makes it illegal to “solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation” from a foreign national. The question of whether or not the president ran afoul of that law certainly seems in play in light of what we saw in the transcript.

For purposes of this statute, a “contribution or donation” is defined as “money” or another “thing of value.” So a prosecution of Trump would hinge upon whether the opposition research Trump sought on Biden constitutes such a “thing of value.” Barr and Giuliani, meanwhile, could be considered accomplices in Trump’s effort to obtain opposition research from Ukraine’s president.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73414 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:11 am to
Cling to it Eurotrash cling!
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Federal law makes it illegal to “solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation” from a foreign national. The question of whether or not the president ran afoul of that law certainly seems in play in light of what we saw in the transcript.



No it doesn't.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Federal law makes it illegal to “solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation” from a foreign national. The question of whether or not the president ran afoul of that law certainly seems in play in light of what we saw in the transcript.


Good thing that never happened.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:12 am to
quote:

they MUST NOT IMPEACH!

Pelosi has no interest in impeaching. She only wants propaganda. She knows full well impeachment would end her as speaker bc it would ramp up the conservative base for the next election.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:13 am to
An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers to be at a given moment in history... - President Ford.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:14 am to
Conspiracy to Obstruct HER TURN!
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6935 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:16 am to
quote:

For purposes of this statute, a “contribution or donation” is defined as “money” or another “thing of value.” So a prosecution of Trump would hinge upon whether the opposition research Trump sought on Biden constitutes such a “thing of value.” Barr and Giuliani, meanwhile, could be considered accomplices in Trump’s effort to obtain opposition research from Ukraine’s president.

Yet if corruption is found, say by a video confession of using American aide to strong arm a foreign diplomat to fire an IG in charge of investigating said politicians son's corruption...then the inquiry by Trump would be justified as American and Ukraine have a long standing Treaty regarding cooperation in rooting out corruption
Posted by Amblin
Member since Sep 2011
2562 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:16 am to
Imagine if you have a police department target a homeowner, spy on his house, follow his every move, tap his phones, all to try to find something to arrest him with. That is what the DEMS are doing to Trump.

Imagine a school principal targeting a teacher cuz she didn't like him, reading all his emails, wiring their room, taking all good teaching methods the teacher did and twisting it into something bad all to discredit that teacher in the eyes of the parents and other faculty. That is what the DEMS are doing to Trump.

It's not right and the public knows it.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:18 am to
quote:

If the house cannot identify any specific provision of the US code he violated, they MUST NOT IMPEACH!




Day drinking?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73414 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:19 am to
Muh subpoenas!
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10185 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:20 am to
USC 42.456: No Orange being shall be the Chief Executive of the United States of America
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8174 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:21 am to
quote:

For purposes of this statute, a “contribution or donation” is defined as “money” or another “thing of value.” So a prosecution of Trump would hinge upon whether the opposition research Trump sought on Biden constitutes such a “thing of value.” Barr and Giuliani, meanwhile, could be considered accomplices in Trump’s effort to obtain opposition research from Ukraine’s president.


Except people ASSUME he did it because of the campaign. Investigating the actions of a previous administration falls within the rights of the executive and it is not a crime for him to exercise his constitutional powers EVEN IF you don't like how he used them.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
4897 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:21 am to
Its going on 3 years that they have been spying on Trump and they have found nothing. Reaching so far to Ukraine and Kurds shows they have nothing.

I wonder if they will ever hold a vote, maybe a week before the election or do they fast track it if he wins again and repubs retake the house
Posted by FtHuntTiger
Lafayette, LA
Member since Oct 2011
677 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:28 am to
Even though the constitution talks in terms of "crimes" impeachment is essentially a political--not criminal--process.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51461 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:32 am to
quote:

Federal law makes it illegal to “solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation” from a foreign national. The question of whether or not the president ran afoul of that law certainly seems in play in light of what we saw in the transcript.

For purposes of this statute, a “contribution or donation” is defined as “money” or another “thing of value.” So a prosecution of Trump would hinge upon whether the opposition research Trump sought on Biden constitutes such a “thing of value.” Barr and Giuliani, meanwhile, could be considered accomplices in Trump’s effort to obtain opposition research from Ukraine’s president.


The investigation into attempts by foreign powers to influence the 2016 election began well before Biden announced his Presidency. Information derived from that investigation (and Biden's own words in video admitting to extorting the Ukrainians) have led to this point.

Either that is a superseding factor or the precedent is set that no one may be investigated for anything as long as they are running for President (by extension that could eventually cover any elected office).

Those are the only two choices. Which would you rather?
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:33 am to
42 U.S.C. §1

Sec. 1 – IT WAS HER F*CKING TURN GOD DAMN IT!
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