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re: What are your objections to (or praises of) Biden's immigration bill?

Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:54 am to
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
11926 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:54 am to
Its a lying, marxist bill just what you would expect from the mouth of a Pinnochio Potatohead Puppet.

Don't even have to read it's 1,000 pages my gut just tells me what it is.

Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:54 am to
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Biden and the Democrats are the Evil Witch who really, really, really want you to take a bite of that apple


I can't stand Democrats, but you know we have to stop calling our fellow Americans with a different view as "Evil" that needs to be destroyed. That's the biggest issue with politics today.

Politicians need to work together to find solutions, not just spend all their time demonizing other Americans.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67948 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:55 am to
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I'm surprised how much it does address issues that I thought he was denying.


The administration is ignoring the laws we have now.

Giving them more laws that they will ignore is useless.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12942 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:55 am to
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They are pathological liars and ANYONE acting in good-faith with these traitors is a fking moron.



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This is seriously your thought process?


Are you naive enough to believe that the people who flung the border wide open and invited millions of people to invade our country, lied about border security for three years, and openly refused to secure the border are all of a sudden worried about border security?
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19970 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:56 am to
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What issue does it address?



I already posted this, but I'll repeat it from above.

Does none of this make a difference to you? These are not "just enforce existing law". That's a child's answer.

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Key features of the bill under consideration would make it harder for migrants to claim asylum, expand detention capacity and expedite the expulsion of migrants who lack lawful reasons to stay in the country. The plan would also add staff to the Border Patrol and those tasked with processing migrants. It also includes a mechanism to shut down migrant intake when it exceeds more than 5,000 daily border encounters.


Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5001 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:59 am to
A president should never say “I’ll stop breaking federal law if you agree to this”
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12942 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:03 am to
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Does none of this make a difference to you? These are not "just enforce existing law". That's a child's answer.


So if they aren’t enforcing the existing laws what makes you believe they’ll enforce new laws?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16504 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:03 am to
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Does none of this make a difference to you? These are not "just enforce existing law". That's a child's answer.


Why would it anything in there make a difference when...we don't enforce our current laws? They going to start magically enforcing stricter laws than we already have?

You really cant see this is just optics in an election year?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26348 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:06 am to
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Is this not true, or does it not make a difference?

How could anything that includes this bullshite:
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It also includes a mechanism to shut down migrant intake when it exceeds more than 5,000 daily border encounters.


Be considered to "address" the border?

Current US law allows us to allow zero illegal immigrants into the country. Why are we conceding allowing 5,000 of them per day/week/whatever? That is hundreds of thousands, if not more, "allowed" illegal immigrants.

Its unacceptable.
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 11:09 am
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
2804 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:17 am to
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Key features of the bill under consideration would make it harder for migrants to claim asylum, expand detention capacity and expedite the expulsion of migrants who lack lawful reasons to stay in the country. The plan would also add staff to the Border Patrol and those tasked with processing migrants. It also includes a mechanism to shut down migrant intake when it exceeds more than 5,000 daily border encounters.


Is this not true, or does it not make a difference?


Shut down migrant intake when exceeding 5,000/day? That results in over 1.8 million illegals a year before doing anything. That shows me this bill is a fricking joke.

Does it do anything to resolve the anchor baby issue? What about rounding up illegals already here and deporting them? No? It's a steaming pile of shite.
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:19 am to
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Current US law allows us to allow zero illegal immigrants into the country. Why are we conceding allowing 5,000 of them per day/week/whatever? That is hundreds of thousands, if not more, "allowed" illegal immigrants.

Its unacceptable.


Ok...

A) Take the Bill stopping all but 5,000 until Trump wins and fix the Bill to allow O.

Or

B) Use it to get politcial brownie points for a election while more Americans are raped and murdered by illegals...

Lets see... what should a real Leader do......hmmmmmmm

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140484 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:20 am to
1000 page bill to address something that already has laws on the books?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140484 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:21 am to
Ray,
Do we know the other shite in the bill the commies snuck in?

That’s how they frick us. One of the ways anyway.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27144 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:23 am to
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I know more MAGA farmers


You should turn them in then... There are laws against that as well...
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44859 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:23 am to
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how do you expect to get anything done in DC if you don't find SOMETHING that is common ground with the more reasonable elements of the Democratic Party


These are nonexistent. The dem party is comprised entirely of communists and Marxists, and no real American should have any interest in bipartisanship until those elements are flushed out.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15619 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:24 am to
It doesn't go nearly far enough to keep illegals out and get rid of the ones already here.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5761 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:24 am to
He doesn't need this bill to stop the flow of illegals coming in! He wants you to think that it is the answer to the problem, when he is the problem.
He wants that money for Ukraine, which is included in the package. Also, he wants more judges and more border agents to handle the crowds, not eliminate themn.
It's all a Democratic hoax and the RHINO's are falling for it as well.
Posted by Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Between Your Ears
Member since Aug 2005
3425 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:26 am to
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What issue does it address?


I already posted this, but I'll repeat it from above.

Does none of this make a difference to you? These are not "just enforce existing law". That's a child's answer.

quote:
Key features of the bill under consideration would make it harder for migrants to claim asylum, expand detention capacity and expedite the expulsion of migrants who lack lawful reasons to stay in the country. The plan would also add staff to the Border Patrol and those tasked with processing migrants. It also includes a mechanism to shut down migrant intake when it exceeds more than 5,000 daily border encounters.




You have quoted this at least twice in this thread and continue to "pretend" to not understand other posters objections and try to belittle them with "that's a child's answer". You are the one that is acting like a petulant child by not even understanding what you post as a solution is not a solution.

Point 1 asylum seekers do not cross through multiple Countries to seek asylum they seek asylum in the first County they enter.

Point 2 5,000 illegals per day is 1.8 million per year.

Point 3 enforce the current laws! If the current laws are not enforced do you really think new laws will be.

Point 4 if boarder security is really a priority make it a stand alone bill and don't attach funding for Ukraine or anything else to it.

:doublebird:

:usa:
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:29 am to
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You should turn them in then... There are laws against that as well...


That would be most of Baldwin County!
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19970 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:36 am to
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Shut down migrant intake when exceeding 5,000/day?


Well, that’s not what it says, so…

I swear. People insist they are the ones paying attention when they can’t even get the most basic elements right.
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