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re: What are some of your non conservative beliefs

Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:19 am to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:19 am to
National Parks is my one deviation.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5049 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:22 am to
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Just describing my left leaning belief. For the most part I am staunchly right wing. I believe the people are the building blocks of a nation, and you don't get that by turning them into slaves. I want to see the United States and its people come first. I don't trust corporations to do that. Something needs to keep them in check. It's either government or unionization. Of course the politicians chose government (and what a shitty job they've done.)


Fair enough. And not trusting big corporations, government, etc is wise. However trusting unions, IMHO, is just as unwise. Look at the dude leading the Longshoreman's strike. You couldn't have a more perfect caricature of what a Union Boss is. He talks about the plight of the working man, meanwhile he drives a Bentley, has a 76' yacht and made $900K last year. It's utterly ridiculous.

Unions simply aren't necessary in today's world. There are too many companies, large and small, competing for talent, so organizing for "the working class" is simply not necessary.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 11:23 am
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6486 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:25 am to
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There is a certain point that people have the right to make choices and the markets is going to do absolutely what it does


The food supply is not governed by the free market. Government regulation and subsidies dictate the food supply. The disaster known as the food pyramid created generations of hormonal/metabolic dysregulation which has led to obesity, declining birth rates, mental illness, cancer, etc.

You are what you eat. If you eat junk, you become junk. The population of the US is for lack of a better word, junk. It's not their fault. They didn't choose the food. You have no idea how easy it is to control a population.

The medical industry has been complicit in the obesity/mental illness epidemic, so I wouldn't go running to them for help in that regard.

We are chasing our tails trying to solve a problem that didn't exist 50 years ago. The answer is staring us in the face. We just have to be willing to fix it.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:25 am to
I don't have an issue with inheritance tax but over..2billion or so. Fortunately most of the next two generations squander wealth but we really could be in a feudal state if families (Musk Gates Ellison Buffettetc) continued and grew their holdings ... That group alone is nearly half trillion capitalism is the best economic system...but it's not perfect
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6582 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:27 am to
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Again it would be for the basic not for preventative care for that you get private insurance. We spend more of our gbp on healthcare than any nation with universal healthcare.


Again, they don't run anything well. Why give more responsibility to an entity that sucks at everything they do?
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6486 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:32 am to
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Unions simply aren't necessary in today's world. There are too many companies, large and small, competing for talent, so organizing for "the working class" is simply not necessary.


You're right about the Longshoremen Union boss being a caricature. It's a shame, but every organization is corrupted at some point. Does that mean it's all bad, because there's corruption? I'm not sure I would throw the baby out with the bathwater.

There needs to checks and balances. There's strength in numbers and people deserve to be represented.

I do think collective bargaining has a place in the free market. The free market ultimately wins though. And I'm also not opposed to government intervention where necessary. (Matters of national security.)
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182339 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:32 am to
Welfare programs to help people TEMPORARILY when they are down and trying to build back up are things we should offer as a society. Life is up and down and we should help those who need it when life kicks their teeth in but there should be time and monetary limits.


Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196566 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:32 am to
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Local media cannot be owned by large corporations with little to no tie to a community. Ownership in local media should have direct ties to the communities they serve.


this would do so much and more people would be informed

Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
8191 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:32 am to
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Anyone who gets their insurance from their employer has seen a significant increase in the costs of their plans and a corresponding decrease in coverage.


And that's hand in hand with worse and worse care when you need it. The system is being crippled and quality of care is a thing of the past.

I say this as both a healthcare provider and cancer patient.
Posted by SoWhat
Member since May 2013
711 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:33 am to
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3. Universal healthcare (with current budget we spend more per individual than any other country) still have options for private


This is the biggest problem facing our country however, turning it over to the government would be a disaster.

Rather, I think the non conservative notion would be to limit Big Pharma money in healthcare.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32721 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:33 am to
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High speed rails are successful in countries much smaller than the U.S. Our geography makes it impractical and expensive.


Europe and China are similar in size to the lower 48. It's absolutely possible.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6486 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:36 am to
The problem with universal healthcare is we don't have a secure nation. Our border policies have created a massive indigent class of people that have paid virtually nothing into the system they have become dependent upon.

We have a demographic problem in the US. Our culture and porous borders make it impossible to have universal healthcare. Solve the border, eject illegals, clamp down on crime, create productive citizens, return to a homogenous culture and we can talk about universal healthcare.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11757 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:36 am to
In before

Pro Slavery
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47132 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:37 am to
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1. We need high speed rail across the country
2. Prioritize public transportation
3. Universal healthcare (with current budget we spend more per individual than any other country) still have options for private



I doubt you’re a conservative.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196566 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:39 am to
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Europe and China are similar in size to the lower 48. It's absolutely possible.


But in Europe, these old ancient cities were already connected by rail so the investment was an upgrade rather than starting from scratch
the agreement to cross boundaries, and ownership of the right of way. the infrastructure it all was mostly an upgrade

And in China, it was a totalitarian government didn't have to pay attention to province lines , private property rights basic human rights
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
7686 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:39 am to
Commitment to strong, robust public education systems across America.

(But no teacher's unions.)
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68387 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:40 am to
I don't care if ratchets want to kill their babies.

The Israel worship on the right is obnoxious and antithetical to America First.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20073 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:41 am to
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1. anti death penalty

I agree with this. After seeing the justice system over the last few years it would be very easy for someone innocent to get fricked.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5542 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:42 am to
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3. Universal healthcare (with current budget we spend more per individual than any other country) still have options for private


As somebody who has had to deal with the federal and state government a good bit for work over the past few years, this is a HARD NO.

I urge everyone to just try to call and actually talk to people in a government agency. I had to deal with the Louisiana OMV the other day for a work vehicle. Getting ahold of somebody in the BR office took 3 days. After finally getting a call back they didn't have any answers and were very rude.

Tldr,

Governments are inefficient at doing anything so why let them run one of the most important aspects of society.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32721 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:46 am to
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But in Europe, these old ancient cities were already connected by rail so the investment was an upgrade rather than starting from scratch
the agreement to cross boundaries, and ownership of the right of way. the infrastructure it all was mostly an upgrade


All of our cities were connected by rail and could've been upgraded, but then we decided to spend untold tens of billions to build the Interstate Highway System and make everything auto-centric.

The fact that transportation has a liberal/conservative dichotomy is absolute bullshite.

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