re: What are realistic solutions to fixing our fiscal issues?

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So let me get this straight. People who have paid in hundreds of thousands of dollars and will receive no interest on that money should suck it up and not get hardly any of it back because they “make too much money.”

No. It would be based on net worth and not income. If someone is independently wealthy then they already won. They don't need to be drawing social security just because they're old.

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So the government will do a deep dive into the net worth of every person filing for social security? And what if a person makes good money but is not a millionaire? How much wealth do they need to have? You are an idiot.

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Our debt isn't sustainable. We're going to have to do something on the spending end. Cutting checks to wealthy retired people probably isn't good fiscal policy.

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It’s their money, moron, not a giveaway like you probably support for social programs which are truly gifts. Apparently you don’t want to get any of the money you put in to SS, since it will take money away from worthwhile social programs. I appreciate your selflessness. Assuming you even put any money into social security.

Social Security itself is not stupidity unless you are against it totally. The problem is that Congress has repeatedly taken money from the trust fund to pay for stupid bullshite and now it is unsustainable. Therein lies the problem.

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make enough to meet the cap on SS. I won't need it by the time I'm full retirement age. I'd happily forfeit my social security for the greater fiscal health of the country.

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said nobody ever whose paid in the maximum to social security you're a liar.

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need to look at means testing it

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Nothing was said about means testing the entire time the government forced me to contribute to SS. I want what was promised and not a penny less.

You want to means test? Tell young people at the time they get SS numbers and give them a choice. If they don’t want SS they can opt out. If they want it, they accept it with means testing.

Forcing people to participate is bullshite. Forcing participation, then screwing them, is piling bullshite on. Marxism must provide an opt-out.

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Social Security itself is not stupidity unless you are against it totally. The problem is that Congress has repeatedly taken money from the trust fund to pay for stupid bullshite and now it is unsustainable. Therein lies the problem.

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There is not, and has never been, a social security trust fund. Ever.

It was not how the program was designed. From the beginning of the program until recently, when social security revenues exceeded outlays, the treasury took the surplus and gave social security admin an iou.

For the past 9 years or so, social security outlays have exceeded revenue, and the only reason social security is still able to pay full benefits js because the program is being paid back by the IOUs.

In 2034, social security will have used all up the ious it was given during the many decades when ss revenues exceeded outlays. That year is when benefits will be cut if nothing changes

Tariffs, get rid of illegals, quit paying able bodied people to sit on their arse, and cut bullshite spending while increasing GDP and growing your tax base.

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SSI, the elderly paid for it

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They paid for the SSI given when they were paying taxes, not the SSI being dole out now.

SS contributions are taxes paid to a welfare-redistribution scheme, like all other taxes. There isn't some special ownership of your SS tax payments.

When a person starts receiving SS, they join a welfare program paid for by those currently working.

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They paid for the SSI given when they were paying taxes, not the SSI being dole out now.

SS contributions are taxes paid to a welfare-redistribution scheme, like all other taxes. There isn't some special ownership of your SS tax payments.

When a person starts receiving SS, they join a welfare program paid for by those currently working

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You say this as if it is all new to me.

There's an abulance over there that needs chasing. Chase it.

Social Security is money that workers paid into the fund. It's a retirement plan administered by the government. Therein lies the problem - the government. True, the crooked democrats and their pals turned into a tax. Once upon a time they called it - The Social Security Trust Fund. Well, there's nothing trustful about what the democrats and their crooked pals did. Classic bait and switch.

I was there, I watched on television as Joe Biden (yep, he was there) and his crooked politician pals voted to essentially do away with the Social Security "Lockbox"Trust Fund and treat those S/S receipts as just another tax income stream.

Had they stuck with the plan as enacted - raise S/S taxes and then let the interest and principal grow the fund in anticipation of the retiring baby boomer's (all 72 million of'um) we wouldn't be having this discussion on the approaching insolvency of Social Security.

FACT - they (the democrats) stole everything. And now to add insult to injury they're holding America hostage because they want another absurd spending package ($ 1.5 trillion) to give free healthcare to illegal aliens.

Honestly I can't see why American workers and retirees are not incensed about this theft. It's OUR money.

President Trump was right about...........everything.