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re: We’re All Branches on Same Tree
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:03 am to Jbird
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:03 am to Jbird
Not even close.
Islam worships a false god. The difference could not be more stark.
In Islam, Allah is a projection of Muhammad’s own will, a tribal warlord sanctified in the heavens.
The god of Islam is not a transcendent being who calls men to rise above their nature, he is a divine version of everything man is at his worst: lustful, possessive, vengeful, violent, and endlessly deceitful.
He rewards obedience not with his presence, but with sex, conquest, and domination.
His “paradise” is a brothel in the sky. His justice is rooted in favoritism and terror. His love is conditional, his mercy arbitrary, and his threats eternal.
He speaks more of punishment than peace, more of submission than salvation.
His scripture glorifies deception (“Allah is the best of deceivers”), sanctions slavery, blesses violence, and encourages self-destruction in the name of glory.
Yet, this god demands to be worshipped, not understood. Feared, not known. You do not reason with him. You do not question him. You submit.
Muhammad’s god serves one ultimate purpose: to reflect and empower Muhammad’s own desires, political, sexual, and military.
Every “revelation” comes conveniently in step with his personal ambitions:
justifying his marriages, excusing his violence, protecting his ego, or consolidating his control.
This is not a God who transforms the human heart. This is a god who amplifies its worst instincts.
The God of Scripture descends in humility, entering history not to conquer empires, but to conquer sin and death. He calls His followers to love their enemies, to forgive the undeserving, to serve without reward.
He values the broken, restores the fallen, and grants dignity to the outcast. He invites humanity to walk with Him, not just kneel before Him.
The god of Muhammad offers none of this. He demands fear. He demands allegiance. He demands death to those who will not conform.
He is not Father, he is Master, his followers are not children, they are tools, martyrs, and soldiers.
The result of this theology is a civilization shaped not by the imitation of God, but by the deification of a man.
The biblical God is the standard we rise to meet. The Islamic god is the mirror that justifies who we already are.
One calls man upward. The other pulls him downward, wrapping his worst instincts in religious language, and calling it righteousness.
Islam worships a false god. The difference could not be more stark.
In Islam, Allah is a projection of Muhammad’s own will, a tribal warlord sanctified in the heavens.
The god of Islam is not a transcendent being who calls men to rise above their nature, he is a divine version of everything man is at his worst: lustful, possessive, vengeful, violent, and endlessly deceitful.
He rewards obedience not with his presence, but with sex, conquest, and domination.
His “paradise” is a brothel in the sky. His justice is rooted in favoritism and terror. His love is conditional, his mercy arbitrary, and his threats eternal.
He speaks more of punishment than peace, more of submission than salvation.
His scripture glorifies deception (“Allah is the best of deceivers”), sanctions slavery, blesses violence, and encourages self-destruction in the name of glory.
Yet, this god demands to be worshipped, not understood. Feared, not known. You do not reason with him. You do not question him. You submit.
Muhammad’s god serves one ultimate purpose: to reflect and empower Muhammad’s own desires, political, sexual, and military.
Every “revelation” comes conveniently in step with his personal ambitions:
justifying his marriages, excusing his violence, protecting his ego, or consolidating his control.
This is not a God who transforms the human heart. This is a god who amplifies its worst instincts.
The God of Scripture descends in humility, entering history not to conquer empires, but to conquer sin and death. He calls His followers to love their enemies, to forgive the undeserving, to serve without reward.
He values the broken, restores the fallen, and grants dignity to the outcast. He invites humanity to walk with Him, not just kneel before Him.
The god of Muhammad offers none of this. He demands fear. He demands allegiance. He demands death to those who will not conform.
He is not Father, he is Master, his followers are not children, they are tools, martyrs, and soldiers.
The result of this theology is a civilization shaped not by the imitation of God, but by the deification of a man.
The biblical God is the standard we rise to meet. The Islamic god is the mirror that justifies who we already are.
One calls man upward. The other pulls him downward, wrapping his worst instincts in religious language, and calling it righteousness.
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:10 am to KCT
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Muslims would agree that they share the same God with infidels?
Absolutely
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:12 am to AlwysATgr
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What does this even mean? Understood by whom?
It means they all worship the same god. Understood by people who study these faiths.
quote:
We do NOT worship the same God as Muslims. Add that to your historical record.
Wrong.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:13 am to KCT
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Muslims would agree that they share the same God with infidels? I doubt it.
You’d be wrong.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:14 am to RohanGonzales
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Notice when he starts listing extremists he starts with "Christian nationalists".
whatever the frick those are
I'm mean, can he give me a list of buildings Christian Nationalists have bombed? How about airplane hijacks? Or groups of people they've ensalved or mutilated? All in the name of Christian Nationalism.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:14 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:completely wrong and you lack any real understanding. Jesus himself told the religious leaders that they serve their father satan.
I have looked at both. I’ve also looked at the historical developments of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Historically speaking, it is generally understood that they worship the same god. That doesn’t mean that they’re not fundamentally different conceptions of that god among those religions.
That was Jesus talking to his fellow people. if they weren't of "the same God" then certainly Jews and Muslims aren't worshiping the same God as we Christians.
Furthermore, Christianity (and Judaism before it) is based on a covenant. If you accept Christ as lord and savior you are born again and abiding by that specific covenant. If you do not acknowledge Christ, then you reject this covenant and thus not the same.
Christ offered a new covenant and specifically said one must be born again to see the kingdom of God.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:15 am to Jbird
Only Christians worship the true God, which is Christ.
We believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
begotten from the Father before all ages,
God from God,
Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made;
of the same essence as the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven;
he became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary,
and was made human.
He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered and was buried.
The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures.
He ascended to heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again with glory
to judge the living and the dead.
His kingdom will never end.
And we believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life.
He proceeds from the Father and the Son,
and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified.
He spoke through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church.
We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look forward to the resurrection of the dead,
and to life in the world to come. Amen.
We believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
begotten from the Father before all ages,
God from God,
Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made;
of the same essence as the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven;
he became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary,
and was made human.
He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered and was buried.
The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures.
He ascended to heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again with glory
to judge the living and the dead.
His kingdom will never end.
And we believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life.
He proceeds from the Father and the Son,
and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified.
He spoke through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church.
We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look forward to the resurrection of the dead,
and to life in the world to come. Amen.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:24 am to faraway
quote:
completely wrong and you lack any real understanding.
Wrong. You’re just letting your religious beliefs cloud any understanding of historical perspective.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:34 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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Lol. Just take a look at the Bible and the quran. If you can't tell muslims worship different a god, then you are intellectually hopeless.
Allah is the same god Moses, Abraham and Jesus worshipped.
You have the same God. Your books written by men differ in the nature of that same god.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:39 am to B747Tiger
quote:
Catholics would consider it blasphemy for Protestants to reject papal authority or not believing the Eucharist is the actual blood and body of Christ.
Perhaps as a technical theological point a long time ago, this might be accurate. But, this is certainly not the official view of the RCC or the Catechism today.
Catholics are officially OUT of the management business of deciding "Who goes to Heaven?" "Who goes to Hell?" Those questions are Official Management Decisions that rest in the purview of Almighty God. As such, we don't presume to read God's Holy Mind on this.
The RCC view is that Salvation comes from Faith in Jesus Christ and in becoming a Disciple of Jesus Christ and his Commandments. The RCC teaches that the best way for a Catholic to reach The Goal is to be an active supporter of the RCC - put your Faith into action.
Faith in Jesus Christ is the First Step of Christ-like Discipleship. It's the First Step of becoming a Follower of Jesus Christ.
This post was edited on 8/24/26 at 10:40 am
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:48 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:
Understood by people who study these faiths.
Who are these "people"? They need to sharpen their pencil because they are demonstrably confused and deluded.
Perhaps the two most evangelical centric doctrines are the person and work of Jesus of Nazareth. 1) He was God incarnate in human flesh, i.e., not just the Son of God but God THE Son. 2) That He died vicariously by crucifixion as a once for all sacrifice for man's sin - expiating the filth of our sins and propitiating the wrath for our sins.
Islam does not believe either (and that's just a start). If they did, they would trash every Quran and raze every mosque.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:53 am to dgnx6
quote:
Allah is the same god Moses, Abraham and Jesus worshipped
You are confusing vocabulary with dictionary.
The supreme being of the Quran =/= the God the Bible.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 11:02 am to AlwysATgr
quote:
You are confusing vocabulary with dictionary. The supreme being of the Quran =/= the God the Bible.
Wrong.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 11:07 am to Jbird
A man once went around claiming that Jesus is a created being. He was slapped by Santa Claus, exiled, and his works burned.
300 years later, an illiterate cave dwelling pedophile came to the same conclusion and started the most violent religion in history.
We do not worship the same God.
300 years later, an illiterate cave dwelling pedophile came to the same conclusion and started the most violent religion in history.
We do not worship the same God.
Posted on 8/24/26 at 11:49 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:
Wrong
Nuts
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