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re: Was the Civil War Fought Because of Slavery? It Depends on Which Side You View

Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:08 pm to
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And still happening.


Nobody cares now. Unfortunately.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:12 pm to
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To govern themselves as they saw fit.



Yep. And in the Confederate constitution, they made sure to include a provision that permanently legalized slavery, protecting it from any future legislative action. Just a coincidence I am sure.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:12 pm to
No new slave states.

The South then saw the writing on the wall.
Of course no slave economy no war.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:14 pm to
Nearly 200 years later and you still don’t get it. This is the cancer of the U.S. an unwillingness to think critically.
Posted by RollTide4547
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:15 pm to
The Civil War was about money and cotton.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:16 pm to
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The British had just started the industrial revolution.


The Industrial Revolution started in Britain in the 1760s and reached the United States by the 1790s. In fact, it was the Industrial Revolution that led to an economic boom in the South in regards to slavery due to the need for cotton to feed the textile mills in the North and in Europe.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:16 pm to
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It was slavery. Come on.


If the north fought to free slaves, why wouldn’t they free their own slaves until the ratification of the 13th?
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Did Slavery Contribute to the War Between the States?


Better phrasing.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:17 pm to
Asking if slavery was the cause of the Civil War is the wrong way to frame the question IMO

Secession by the Confederate states was 100% about slavery

The reasons the war was fought are more complex that that.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:17 pm to
more magaStream media poisoning.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:20 pm to
It was economic. The northern states were heavily populated and industrialized and thus had a majority of congressional representation and they used that power to bully the south and its agrarian economy to the benefit of the north’s industry. They imposed tariffs on imports to protect industry which led to retaliation by the UK who imported southern tobacco and cotton. The south wanted to trade directly with the UK and the north wouldn’t allow it. And pressure to end slavery added fuel to that fire because having to pay wages was uneconomical due to ag exports cratering or having to pay high tariffs to the UK on ag exports. It backed the south into a corner
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:20 pm to
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Secession was 100% a direct result of the institution of slavery.

Does it make sense that parents in the north were sending their sons off to war to possibly die to abolish slavery, yet they had to march through states in the Union where slavery was legal until after the war ended? Don’t forget that the emancipation proclamation was essentially an executive order issued two years after the war started and restricted the freeing of slaves in only certain states, only the CSA states. Union states such as Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, and Delaware where slavery was still legal were exempt. Remember that there was no industry in the south to speak of. Ninety percent of the population were subsistence farmers, and 75% of the population in the south didn’t own slaves. The father and sons did the heavy work as subsistence farmers and joining the Confederate army meant they were leaving the farming to the women and children. Do you really think they would do that only in the name of slavery being that 75% didn’t even own a slave?

History is complicated. People like to pick easy single reasons for things. They are usually wrong when they do that.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:21 pm to
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Very few were in favor of simple abolishment, in the way that we typically think of it. Very few supported a "stroke of the pen declaration" type of abolishment.


Also Lincoln had a plan to send most slaves back to Africa. Thanks a lot, Booth
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:24 pm to
It wasn't one issue. Slavery was the biggest one though. This country would have been so much better off if they would have banned slavery after the Revolution.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:25 pm to
Why do people insist on dumbing-down history into sound bites? Saying that the Civil War was fought because of slavery is like saying WWII was fought because Germany invaded Poland.

Slavery absolutely was a major catalyst for the civil war but the fully story is far more complex.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
11206 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:26 pm to
Invention of the cotton gin made slavery explode since they were able to efficiently remove the seed from cotton.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:26 pm to
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Was the Civil War Fought Because of Slavery?

This thread has been started many times on here. And yes slavery was the main factor.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3680 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:29 pm to
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It was economic. The northern states were heavily populated and industrialized and thus had a majority of congressional representation and they used that power to bully the south and its agrarian economy to the benefit of the north’s industry. They imposed tariffs on imports to protect industry which led to retaliation by the UK who imported southern tobacco and cotton. The south wanted to trade directly with the UK and the north wouldn’t allow it. And pressure to end slavery added fuel to that fire because having to pay wages was uneconomical due to ag exports cratering or having to pay high tariffs to the UK on ag exports. It backed the south into a corner


This
Posted by TIGA 80
Larose
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:35 pm to
All wars are fought over economics and land. The Morrill Tarriff was the main cause initially, protecting northern industry and keeping southern cotton from being sold overseas. Cotton was the oil of the day and the south controlled 80% of all the cotton in the world.

In addition, the north controlled the railroads and rates for southern goods were always higher than rates for northern business. Slavery was just one of many economic reasons for the dispute.

The North violated the constitution with unfair taxes , trade and taking private property without just compensation. The Constitution allowed slavery and the union would have never happened without that clause.

Northern businesses saw an opportunity to bankrupt the south with the war, so they could come in and get farms, business and land for cheap and control the cotton trade and farming

Nothing in the constitution prohibits a state from leaving the union. When we won the Revolutionary War, England declared each state a sovereign Nation. Each Nation freely entered into the union.

If one state or a number of states purposely violate the constitution with unfair taxes and trade or wants to cripple the economy of other states, the contract has been broken therefore the affected states are no longer bound by the contract (constitution) and can go back to sovereign status.
Posted by El Eh Shu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
941 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:36 pm to
Everyone talking about why the civil war was fought, with the implied American education answer being der the South fought for slavery. But what they are not saying is the "fight" was due to the American government invading the South.

Instead of asking why the War Between The States was fought, ask why the American government invaded the Southern states?
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