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re: Wait a second..so PCR testing couldn't tell the difference between covid and the flu?

Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:33 am to
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:33 am to
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but there was not some major conspiracy to ramp up numbers of cases with false positives.

The ramping up of the number of cases with false positives was done exactly by this:
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The false positives have a lot more to do with unrealistic Ct values for cutoffs which are too high and counting minuscule amounts of the DNA being present as a positive. That was the biggest flaw with these tests.

And it’s been happening purposefully since day 1 in labs all around the country.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25459 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:36 am to
They served their purpose. Y’all voluntarily game up Liberty and freedom to the government.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30630 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:47 am to
The willful dumbassery during this whole thing is mind boggling.

The ones that did speak out were labeled kooks.

Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167247 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:54 am to
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You are so wrong. Why do you say things that you know are wrong. You know your bs answer is bs but you come here and type it out as if you can change reality just by repeating excuses.


He's done that for years all over TD. I used to laugh at the shite advice he'd give on the OT about real estate and construction. The sad thing is he really believed he knew what he was talking about. The dude is a moron of many topics and master of none.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123908 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:55 am to
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Korkstand
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CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test
If all is copacetic, why transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test? Why would this one not receive full authorization?
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:56 am to
Because the CDC doesn't want to make or support it anymore. That's it. Nothing nefarious.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57956 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:56 am to
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The false positives have a lot more to do with unrealistic Ct values for cutoffs which are too high and counting minuscule amounts of the DNA being present as a positive. That was the biggest flaw with these tests.


I’ve read where having something as simple as a previous cold was enough to trigger a positive test?
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4971 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:01 am to
Reading what is written in the article, Korkstand is right. It does say it was to detect SARS-CoV-2 only.

We do know the numbers were inflated by the crazy numbers of cycles they ran on the test.

But I don't trust the CDC and FDA.....for some reason with this statement.

Why in the hell was there no flu detected this season? Something obviously isn't right and flu didn't just disappear. They are not on the up and up and we all know it.

When CDC and FDA are not pushing people to do preventative measures in boosting immune systems with D, K2, Zinc, C, etc and asking us to mask and shutdown, they are not in the business of looking out for our best interest IMO. Couple that with denying doctors the freedom to treat patients with alternative methods like HCL and Ivermectin....they are corrupt and self serving.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57956 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:05 am to
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When CDC and FDA are not pushing people to do preventative measures in boosting immune systems with D, K2, Zinc, C, etc and asking us to mask and shutdown, they are not in the business of looking out for our best interest IMO. Couple that with denying doctors the freedom to treat patients with alternative methods like HCL and Ivermectin....they are corrupt and self serving.


This is a point that can’t be overstated. If you are serious about truly stopping the spread of covid, you would evaluate every option available, and not simply continue to rely on only 3 methodologies; vaccinations, social distancing and masks.
You also wouldn’t condone things like; BLM super spearer protests and open borders.
Posted by bamacoullion
Fayette, Alabama
Member since Oct 2008
1772 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:08 am to
Beat me to it! You are exactly right.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34909 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:11 am to
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In other words, the old test detected covid only. Now they recommend tests that also detect flu in a single test so that multiple tests are not required to determine whether a person has covid or flu.


Covid is just a more contagious and vigorous virus, like the Flu. We can all thank Fauci and the CCP for that. Now whether those idiots accidentally let it escape their Wuhan Lab is debatable given plausible deniability; but highly suspicious, in that it was WILLFULLY released into the whole World...right before the election that Trump was guaranteed to win. Trump was slamming the CCP.

Smoke=fire. Duh!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68225 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:13 am to
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Reading what is written in the article, Korkstand is right. It does say it was to detect SARS-CoV-2 only
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123908 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:14 am to
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Because the CDC doesn't want to make or support it anymore.
I've not seen that expressed anywhere. Have you? If it's that simple, why not license it out then?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123908 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:20 am to
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Reading what is written in the article, Korkstand is right. It does say it was to detect SARS-CoV-2 only
Right. CDC’s newest laboratory test is a mulitiplex assay. It is designed to detect Influenza A, Influenza B, and/or SARS-CoV-2 at the same time.

And apparently it does not include useless contaminated reagent, which is a huge improvement for CDC lab buffoons who screwed the country in Jan-Feb2020.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 9:21 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57956 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:22 am to
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Right. CDC’s newest laboratory test, detects two types of influenza viruses (A and B) and SARS-CoV-2 at the same time. CDC’s newest laboratory test is a mulitiplex assay. It is designed to detect Influenza A, Influenza B, and/or SARS-CoV-2 at the same time. And apparently it does not include useless contaminated reagent, which is a huge improvement for CDC lab buffoons who screwed the country in Jan-Feb2020.


It would have been nice to have had this about 1 year ago!
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 9:23 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:25 am to
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You are so wrong. Why do you say things that you know are wrong. You know your bs answer is bs but you come here and type it out as if you can change reality just by repeating excuses.

You are lying to yourself and to everyone here.



Do you really think it's just as cheap and easy to create a combo test? Hey why don't we just make a test that checks for every disease possible all at once? Then docs would never say "we need to run more tests". So easy!

This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 9:30 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:31 am to
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He's done that for years all over TD. I used to laugh at the shite advice he'd give on the OT about real estate and construction. The sad thing is he really believed he knew what he was talking about. The dude is a moron of many topics and master of none.
When did I give advice about real estate or construction? You may have memory issues. I think there's a test for that.


And, my god, do you really not see how stupid OP and many others in this thread are?
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:31 am to
Lots of info to consider:

Revolver
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41114 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:32 am to
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This is a point that can’t be overstated. If you are serious about truly stopping the spread of covid, you would evaluate every option available, and not simply continue to rely on only 3 methodologies; vaccinations, social distancing and masks.
You also wouldn’t condone things like; BLM super spearer protests and open borders.



We are living in a clown world.
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:47 am to
Tigah: the announcement itself is that the CDC is pulling it as of a certain date. I could be wrong but seems clear the CDC doesn't want to make or support the assay any longer and is giving labs a heads-up. They are still providing their multiplex test, just not the single agent COVID test.
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