re: Vivek: Jesus is A son of god but not THE son of god. A way to heaven but not THE way

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Just because he has a different faith, you cast him aside?

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Yes, he is incompatible with Western civilization

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People like you amaze me, you take a valid point, and can't understand it because you get lost in the minutia, I could have added Hindus etc. etc. etc. but of course the POINT was the only thing that mattered to me, it was not worth me looking it up I don't care if there are Buddhist, Islamic, Hindus etc. etc. the point was he should not lie to pander for votes. As a preacher of 40 plus years I do not study that crud, matters not to me, they are all of Satan.

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We all understand your point. We're just amazed you got something that's common knowledge THAT wrong.

Study? You don't have to study other religions to know that little nugget of info. Studying history will suffice.

Ahhhhh ........ the Seven Peaks "doctrine" of political Christianity.

Vivek is Hindu? He's never claimed otherwise. Christian Nationalists are clowns.....and their preachers like Doug Wilson are late blooming grifters.

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is he advancing the notion that there is a single god because hindu's don't believe that. at a minimum they believe in 4 gods at a maximum 33 gods!

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This is not true either. Because of course Kellog doesn't know shite about what he's saying.

Hindus believe in the concept of Brahman as the supreme "deity." Except, it isn't a being in the western sense. More like the underlying divine essence that supports all life and existence. And that this Brahman essence takes on many forms that people consider their pantheon of "gods" (lower case g). Most Hindus are not polytheists.

And it's not much different than what the Christians themselves say. That the God figure expresses himself in two other ways - through the Holy Spirit and Jesus. It's just that the Hindus see more expressions than just the 2.

You really have no idea of that which you speak, but you say it with much force of conviction.

The OC does believe in the Bread and Wine becoming the body and blood and thus does believe in transubstantiation. They just think the Thomistic explanation is a waste of words and energy.

You can go back as far as Ignatius of Antioch to see early endorsements of the Eucharist. Ignatius was a disciple of John so Ignatius had to get it from somewhere. He did not make it up and it has been part of the Christian world since at least 75 AD. So it's not a "Roman" thing solely. The Copts also have the Eucharist as center and are not in full communion with Rome and had not been since 451 AD ...... crazy monophosytes.

So Fu, it is you Protestants who decided to interpret the New Testament for yourselves and make the Preacher man the main focus of your worship not Christ. Your services tend to be mostly nothing more than spiritual TED Talks. The service is not moving towards something. The Eucharist is an outward sign of the members of the church participating actively to being one with Christ.

Words and yelling alleluia are mere performance and the quoting of selective verses a poor substitute for really understanding the liturgy

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Matthew 10:14 (KJV): "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet".

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Serves me well on this forum.

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Amen! However, we're currently operating within the context of a "house or city" that has a mixture of both hearers and non-hearers, so my responses are for the sake of the hearers, primarily

Vivek is going to hell so why should I be care what he thinks about heaven.

The only way to heaven is to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

The 'Saved by the Bell thing may have some merit...

You do that. Im Baptist. I’d like for you to tell me why in particular you think my church is “pretend.”

Unlike Catholics, I would never confess my sins to some priest because a priest can’t forgive your sins. I pray and confess my sins to Jesus himself.

Furthermore I don’t listen to men like the pope who say they are quoting from the Bible. In my church our pastor always asks his congregation to open the Bible to the chapter & verse he is preaching on to ensure us that he is actually preaching what the Bible states.

I don’t have big issues with Catholics. Just tired of some of YOU stating my church is pretend and we not true followers of Jesus Christ.

Jesus is the church. Not the pope, not Peter or any of the apostles.