re: Vivek: Jesus is A son of god but not THE son of god. A way to heaven but not THE way

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If you know anything about the earliest days of Christianity, I don’t know that you can use the term “universal” here.

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Right. The guy is completely incorrect and I have shown him exactly why he is incorrect and you don't even have to go back to the early days of Christianity to do so. As I said initially, a lot of these people believe their way is the only way and it does not frickin matter what you say. Even if you show them their positions are entirely incorrect, they will not be deterred.

If the Christian dogma were as rigid and straightforward as this guy portrays it, there wouldn't be myriad different denominations. This is just common sense.

Not having read through every comment would it be out of the ballpark to say that Islam is a sect of Christianity? They accept the Hebrew prophets all the way from Adam, Abraham, Moses, etc. through to John the Baptist and JESUS. They believe that Jesus is the Messiah that will return at the end and drive evil from the world.

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If the Christian dogma were as rigid and straightforward as this guy portrays it, there wouldn't be myriad different denominations. This is just common sense.

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I think you are confusing minor differences about non-critical issues (mostly) with the core issue of who God is and what Jesus did for sinners.

You can’t just say that differences in beliefs about baptism means that Christians have not historically agreed on what Jesus did.

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This is true for every path. Whether it be Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, whatever. You can have a path, but you gotta walk straight and narrow if you hope to make it through. And this too is basic common sense.

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You are now claiming that He was teaching about a specific path? You are differentiating Jesus’ path from others (Hindu, Buddhist, etc), and yet Jesus said it was literally His way or the highway, and the highway leads to Hell (destruction).

You can’t have it both ways. Either Jesus was being a universalist or He wasn’t. If He was, then He was wrong to differentiate His path from any other path, since may paths lead to life rather than destruction. Or. He was wrong to say few will find everlasting life. If every religion teaches the same basic thing, as you seem to be saying, then MANY will find the basic path to life.

Jesus was teaching the opposite, and I think you know that, as you admitted He was teaching about His path over and against others.

Like this MF knows.

No.

Exposing the Muslim Jesus

I think I will go with Jesus. He never claimed to be God.

For instance , J.D. Vance ''I speak for the president"

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I think I will go with Jesus. He never claimed to be God.

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He did claim to be God.

1) He claimed divine names and titles for Himself (John 8:58)

2) He forgave sins, which only God can do (Mark 2:5–7)

3) He accepted worship (John 20:28–29)

4) He commanded authority over the word of God (Matthew 5:22)

5) He claimed to be one with the Father (John 10:30)

6) He exercised creative power as God by calming the wind and sea with just His word (Mark 4:41)

7) He claimed authority over life and death (John 11:25)

8) He unveiled his divine glory before witnesses during the transfiguration (Matthew 17:2; 2 Pet. 1:16–17)

9) He said He had equal honor with the Father (John 5:23)

10) He claimed to be the final Judge over all (John 5:22; Matt. 25:31–32)

I could go on, but I hope that suffices.

I’ve found the acronym HANDS to be helpful: Jesus claimed the Honor of God, the Atrributes of God, the Names (and titles) of God, the Deeds (works) of God, and the Seat (authority) of God.