re: Vivek: Jesus is A son of god but not THE son of god. A way to heaven but not THE way

Jesus didn’t walk around saying the exact English sentence “I am God,” but He absolutely claimed things only God can claim.

- He forgave sins directly (Mark 2). The people around Him immediately said “who can forgive sins but God alone?” and Jesus doesn’t correct them, He doubles down.

- In John 8:58 He says “before Abraham was, I AM.” That’s not bad grammar, that’s the divine name from Exodus. They try to stone Him for it. They understood exactly what He was claiming.

- In John 10:30 He says “I and the Father are one,” and again they pick up stones for blasphemy. Not misunderstanding. That was the claim.

- In John 20:28 Thomas literally calls Him “my Lord and my God,” and Jesus accepts it. No correction, no “hey don’t say that.”

So no, Nicaea didn’t invent anything. It responded to a debate that already existed because the earliest Christians were already treating Jesus as divine.

On the “Jesus prayed to the Father” point, that’s just basic Christian theology. If God becomes man, He actually lives a human life. That includes prayer. That’s not a contradiction, that’s the incarnation.

The Paul attack is laughable. Paul’s letters are some of the earliest Christian documents we have, written within decades of the resurrection. And even if you threw Paul out entirely, you still have the Gospels saying the same things about Jesus.

And calling 2 Peter a “forgery” is a debated scholarly opinion, not some settled fact. Plenty of serious scholars defend its authenticity. Most importantly, the Ecclesia that Christ established.

K, thanks, bye.