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re: Vivek: Jesus is A son of god but not THE son of god. A way to heaven but not THE way

Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:45 am to
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17285 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:45 am to
Jesus claimed to be God, the only way of salvation, died a substitutionary death, and was resurrected.

He is one of three things: Lord; Liar; or Lunatic.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:46 am to
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Let's see how these primaries work out. Can Mark Lynch beat out Lindsey Graham, considering I have never seen nor heard of a staunch LG supporter IRL or Online.


Fingers crossed... there are six individuals in the R primary in SC. We'll see how it shakes out- but I fear we already know the answer.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60726 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:50 am to
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Just because he has a different faith, you cast him aside? I
yes,
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23264 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:51 am to
Even the Old Testament of the Holy Bible is clear about the many sons of GOD.
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
2445 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:53 am to
TLDR… you don’t get to the Trinity by one single “proof.” It’s a step-by-step case. Each one of these topics can and should be discussed for hours, but for the sake of time…

First, God’s existence:
You can argue that philosophically. Things exist that don’t have to exist. They’re contingent. If everything were like that, you’d never get a final explanation. So there has to be a necessary being that doesn’t depend on anything else. That’s what people mean by God. Not a guess, but the grounding of why anything exists at all. Everything with a beginning needs a cause.

Second, that God has acted and revealed Himself:
This is where history comes in. The case for Christianity is tied to the life, death, and especially the resurrection of Jesus. If the resurrection actually happened, then God has spoken through Christ. That moves you from “a generic God exists” to “this God has revealed Himself in a specific way.”

Third, what Jesus and the earliest Christians actually taught:
You get three strands in the New Testament:

- The Father is God. Obvious and uncontested.
- Jesus is God. He forgives sins, accepts worship, is called “Lord” in a divine sense, and is identified with God’s identity (John 1, John 20, Philippians 2).
- The Holy Spirit is not just a force. The Spirit speaks, sends, can be lied to (Acts 5), and is placed alongside the Father and Son (Matthew 28:19).

At the same time, Scripture is very clear there is only one God. So you’re left with data that looks like this…

One God, but Father, Son, and Spirit are each divine and distinct. The Trinity isn’t something imposed on that. It’s the framework that holds all those pieces together without throwing any of them out.

Philosophy gets you to God… History points you to Christ… Scripture shows you Father, Son, and Spirit as God. The Trinity is the conclusion that makes sense of all three at once. If you want to push it further, the real question isn’t just “can I prove the Trinity,” but “what worldview actually explains the full set of data without contradiction?” Happy to dive into whatever vector you’d like but for the sake of brevity let’s stick to 1 or 2 at a time.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98295 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:56 am to
Vote for the Ds

Its what your ghey cult leader who beats up women told you to do anyways
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13594 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:59 am to
I don't know how to break this to y'all, but yeah, that's what Hinduism believes.

I kind of thought that was common knowledge.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37812 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:00 am to
Remember when the cult on this board loved Vivek in the primaries?

I remember…..
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8473 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:03 am to
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I knew he was a plant the 1st time I heard his name, he came from outta the woodwork


Soros connections, J6, Trump Criticizer, CCP connections...When you look at the WEF Young Global Leaders 2021 page today it appears a name has been scrubbed from the list

receipts of the original list:

archive.is/DiGw5

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/03/meet-the-2021-class-of-young-global-leaders/

quote:


How Did Vivek Ramaswamy Get Rich? He bought a drug that failed trials, had his Dr. Mother reinterpret the trial, and scammed investors. Look at both wonderfully done videos where Portfolio Armor calls him out...


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-08-10/how-did-vivek-ramaswamy-get-rich
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
2445 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:04 am to
For anyone confused on Hinduism, please reference Ravi Zachariah’ book “Why Jesus?”
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
9237 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:05 am to
I mean it’s about where I figured his religious philosophy would land.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122941 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:05 am to
These folks are doing it the RIGHT way
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3860 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:06 am to
Until everyone starts to learn Hebrew many issues come up due to not understanding Hebrew.


Hebrew is read three ways, by what is written, by number (as each letter is also a number) and by the symbolic meaning.

The first word in the Bible tells you the message, Barasheet or Beresheet.

The names in the genealogy of Jesus tells you the message.

The name of God tells you the message.

Yawweh

I am that I am

He who was, He who is, He who will be

Also means

Behold see, Behold (the) nail

Hebrew is very deep.




This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 8:26 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89841 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:06 am to
Real Christians don't even vote.

Jesus is the king of all nations.


It's retarded to be bothered by this if you do vote.



Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
1409 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:06 am to
Vivek scammed his way to money. He is an obvious fraud.
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
1409 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:07 am to
Vivek scammed his way to money. He is an obvious fraud.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
5036 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:08 am to
I really enjoy Ravi Zacharias, another one from him that fits this topic is Jesus among other gods
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5136 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:08 am to
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He worships false Gods.


So does every Democratic Globalist. The difference is a Republican like him doesn't want to mass import illegal aliens to change the fabric of a country and turn them into voters that will vote Democrat.

Pray for him. Share The Gospel with him. But a Republican will always trump a Democratic candidate.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89841 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:08 am to
Lol.


Meanwhile your pastor is driving an expensive foreign made car.


Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46873 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:09 am to
Vivek is wrong, and deadly wrong (spiritually) if he does not repent of his idolatry and trust in Jesus Christ, the God-man, for the forgiveness of his sins. He won’t be able to avoid eternal damnation by providing a contradictory statement about Jesus being one of many ways.

It isn’t good enough to be “conservative”. Everyone has commitments to something or someone that reign supreme in their heart and mind. If a person doesn’t have every thought captive to Christ, his worldview and commitments will not be Christ-centered, and you cannot trust that his reasoning and decision making won’t be based on something else than God’s word, for Christ’s glory.

Christians need to demand more, and seek to vote for godly, Christian leaders, who demonstrate both a public profession of faith and commitment to Jesus as King of kings, as well as a demonstration of a life that is consistent with that profession.
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