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re: Vaccinated being as contagious as non should gut the argument for mandates

Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:50 am to
Or the insane idea that some covid riddled vaxxer superspreader doesnt need to submit to weekly testing to go to work while a healthy unvaxed worker does.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86488 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:50 am to
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but you're still just as contagious
But this isn't even close to being true. Still, there should be no mandates.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7050 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:50 am to
It should also end this vax or negative test shite.
Posted by SuperDad
Member since Sep 2021
191 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:52 am to
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But this isn't even close to being true. Still, there should be no mandates.

If they are carrying the same viral load, how is that not true?

Oh, I'm sure one could argue that maybe they have fewer symptoms that project the virus onto others.

Of course, you then have to deal with the reality that if a vaccinated person has a case of COVID that basically presents as a really bad cold, that person is probably just going to Walgreens for some good over the counter meds and going about their day thinking they're "safe". And, promptly coughing on everyone.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7883 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:53 am to
Quit mandating this bullshite on your employees and presto! You can staff your facility.

Additional note on the subject - hospitals run on the edge of a designated capacity year round. A small uptick is “overwhelming”.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 11:54 am
Posted by SuperDad
Member since Sep 2021
191 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:53 am to
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It should also end this vax or negative test shite.


Absolutely.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:53 am to
How is it not? If the viral load is the same, these people may be even more dangerous as many are unaware that they are contagious and not forced to submit to testing. Under the Biden mandate, they would be extremely dangerous.

CBS
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 11:54 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62009 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:56 am to
It could be said that the vaccination itself caused the virus to mutate into a stronger strain.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:04 pm to
According to data from nations with higher vax rates than ours, the real efficacy against contraction is only about 40% - worse than the flu shot. The CDC, NIH, etc... acknowledge that these vaccines do not stop spread, and now Oxford has confirmed that breakthroughs are just as contagious as the unvaccinated cases. We also know that people who are vaccinated may experience milder symptoms and therefore, have a false sense of protection. This could lead to more spread as they interface with the public more freely and are not subject to testing in the federal mandate.

So within the scope of the Federal government's responsibility to stop the SPREAD of a viral pandemic, how is forcing people to take a vaccine like this do that?
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30239 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:21 pm to
It's pretty simple the mandates are extensions of power grabs that have been occurring since this "pandemic" started.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25843 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:29 pm to
Yes it should and they are being dishonest about break through cases. All of the latest cases in my group of contacts have been vaccinated.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14980 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:35 pm to
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Vaccinated being as contagious


Assumes facts not in evidence.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:40 pm to
Does that include if someone visits for a broken arm?
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
1752 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:47 pm to
you can't just make up things and state them as fact.

Vaccinated are not as contagious as non vaccinated. Please look it up.

Vaccinated are much less likely to get the virus, and even if they get it, they are less likely to spread(but can still spread it if they have symptoms).
Posted by SuperDad
Member since Sep 2021
191 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:50 pm to
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Vaccinated are much less likely to get the virus, and even if they get it, they are less likely to spread(but can still spread it if they have symptoms).



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you can't just make up things and state them as fact.

Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3634 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:24 pm to
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90% of hospital visits are non vaxed. /thread


That’s a lie. Every time you post it I will call you a liar

That’s a big problem. People lying and no one calling it out.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3634 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:27 pm to
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Vaccinated are not as contagious as non vaccinated. Please look it up. Vaccinated are much less likely to get the virus, and even if they get it, they are less likely to spread(but can still spread it if they have symptoms).


That is a lie.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12646 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:32 pm to
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The fact that celebrities and politicians can snub all mandates


We can all snub mandates. They are unconstitutional but continuing because so many people are going along with them no questions asked. The president doesnt have the authority to mandate anything. The governor doesnt, and the mayors certainly dont.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
1752 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 2:08 pm to
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That is a lie.


Hmm, mine comes from the cdc, your "facts" come from some random internet guy who did his internet research.

I'll stick to believing the people who spent years researching this.
Posted by SuperDad
Member since Sep 2021
191 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 2:10 pm to
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Hmm, mine comes from the cdc,
Link

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I'll stick to believing the people who spent years researching this.


Someone has spent YEARS researching COVID or the COVID vaccines?
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