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re: USS Abraham Lincoln...Lots of headlines about how troop morale is low due to fatigue.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:21 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:21 pm to Bunk Moreland
Unless you've been on an extended cruise with 6000 of your closest friends, people really shouldn't be making negative comments about this situation. Regularly scheduled deployments are bad enough, but the confinement and what seems like smothering or stifling, is extremely hard for everyone, Officers and Enlisted alike. There were places to hide on the older Nimitz Class boats , but still it's no places for introverts are quiet types. Imagine how the Marines crammed aboard an LSD or LHA must feel.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:21 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Military life is rough. They know that when the join. Should not join if the can’t handle life on a boat at war.
Life aboard an aircraft carrier would be a hellish job.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:22 pm to AGGIES
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Hell no, I’m against reparations for Iran.
But WTF? We have to support our troops.
How rude of the brass making them stay and fight during war time. We can not continue to ask military personnel to do difficult things.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:23 pm to AGGIES
So in a couple of days we will find out it was all exaggerated.. The story will disappear like a fart in the wind...
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:23 pm to AGGIES
Sounds like Pete needs to bring back sock parties to straighten out the slackers.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:23 pm to new92
WOW, a deployment of almost a year? Is the navy that short of personnel or ships that are operational.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:25 pm to Bunk Moreland
I don’t believe anything the media says about these types of things.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:25 pm to AGGIES
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water shortages
All fake news. I commissioned this ship, served on it for 3yrs. The ship produces its own water from the same water the ship floats on; how can there be a shortage?
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:26 pm to rwestmore7
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Who would have thought. Maybe we should not put a TV personality in charge of the military
The previous two were a guy with dementia and a race-baiting organizer.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:27 pm to Bunk Moreland
Buncha pussies.
I did a year on a shitty Gator ship during the Gulf War with real action. Carriers like Lincoln are Navy cruise lines compared to the Gator Navy.
We were in great moods. Jolly green giants on the seas.
I did a year on a shitty Gator ship during the Gulf War with real action. Carriers like Lincoln are Navy cruise lines compared to the Gator Navy.
We were in great moods. Jolly green giants on the seas.
This post was edited on 8/13/26 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:27 pm to Gifman
Reference was to Hegseth, no?
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:33 pm to AGGIES
U.S. has 11 aircraft carriers, with only 3 being operational right now. The rest are either in maintenance at shipyards or undergoing pre-deployment type of training.
The USS John Stennis (Nimitz class) has been "under maintenance" at a shipyard for over 5 years. It took only 4 years to build the entire ship, but 5 years for it's mid-life overhaul.
China kicks our arse at this. China's new "type 004" supercarrier was started in 2024 and will be finished by 2027. Satellite images show that they completed the entire hull in about one year with an estimated total time of construction to be about three years. (It will take several more years to actually get it in the water and operational). The U.S. cannot touch that kind of speed. For example, the USS John Kennedy (Ford class) had its keel laid in 2015 and still isn't finished. Navy expects it next year, so we're looking at 12 years total. China builds an equivalent carrier in 3. Sad!
The USS John Stennis (Nimitz class) has been "under maintenance" at a shipyard for over 5 years. It took only 4 years to build the entire ship, but 5 years for it's mid-life overhaul.
China kicks our arse at this. China's new "type 004" supercarrier was started in 2024 and will be finished by 2027. Satellite images show that they completed the entire hull in about one year with an estimated total time of construction to be about three years. (It will take several more years to actually get it in the water and operational). The U.S. cannot touch that kind of speed. For example, the USS John Kennedy (Ford class) had its keel laid in 2015 and still isn't finished. Navy expects it next year, so we're looking at 12 years total. China builds an equivalent carrier in 3. Sad!
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:34 pm to OchoDedos
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Unless you've been on an extended cruise with 6000 of your closest friends, people really shouldn't be making negative comments about this situation. Regularly scheduled deployments are bad enough, but the confinement and what seems like smothering or stifling, is extremely hard for everyone, Officers and Enlisted alike. There were places to hide on the older Nimitz Class boats , but still it's no places for introverts are quiet types. Imagine how the Marines crammed aboard an LSD or LHA must feel.
What are they in need of hiding from?
Curious Army minds want to know.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:34 pm to DarthRebel
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Weak arse generation.
Anything to deflect criticism from one of the dumbest, most incompetent Commander-in-Chiefs we’ve had in a long time
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:35 pm to DeBoar
Don't shoot the messenger but here's an article from CBS:
Links to the following:
Da Nang Dick's letter
Military Times
There's clearly a problem but you've got 5,000 sailors on the carrier. I would expect there to be a head case or two. I think we're seeing people jump to conclusions that what appears to be isolated incidents as becoming more of a norm. The other issues seem to be okay per the bolded text.
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Washington — Senate Democrats demanded answers Wednesday about conditions aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, following reports of food shortages, broken plumbing and mental health crises during the aircraft carrier's record-setting deployment.
In a letter to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and acting Navy Secretary Hung Cao, Sen. Richard Blumenthal, of Connecticut, called for the Navy to account for conditions aboard the carrier, which he said "has been deployed more than 250 days" without coming ashore "in over 200 days, setting a record for consecutive days at sea."
Blumenthal voiced concern over such extended deployments, noting "widespread reports of shortages of basic supplies, water contamination, plumbing issues, deteriorating mental health, deck safety concerns" and other problems aboard the Lincoln.
A Navy official told CBS News that the "Lincoln is operating in a highly contested environment where traditional supply hubs in the Middle East were disrupted by combat actions. In response, leadership prioritized mission-critical supplies: first food, then hygiene items, then mail. Current reports from the ship confirm continuous access to clean water, functional AC, and healthy meal options."
The Navy confirmed in a statement to CBS News that a sailor assigned to the air wing attached to USS Abraham Lincoln went overboard from the ship earlier this month and was recovered safely. The sailor was quickly picked up by an air wing search and helicopter, treated by the ship's medical department, and transferred off ship for follow-on care. The sailor's family was notified.
The circumstances are under investigation, the Navy said. CNN was first to report the sailor overboard.
In two recent meetings, family members clashed with Navy leadership over the difficult conditions — including food shortages — faced by the 5,000 sailors and Marines aboard the Lincoln and demanded to know when loved ones would return home, MSNOW reported.
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Some families reported severe mental health issues and attempted suicides on board.
Citing a report in the Military Times that said several sailors had tried to jump overboard or were prevented from trying to in recent months, Sen. Ruben Gallego, of Arizona, said in a social media post Wednesday that the Navy "must allow a bipartisan Congressional Delegation to visit the USS Lincoln to conduct (an) oversight investigation into this horrible situation."
The Navy official told CBS News,"Based on information available to the command, we have not identified an increase in reported suicidal ideation or suicide attempts aboard the ship. ... (The) Lincoln is providing a comprehensive support network, including onboard deployment-resilience counselors, chaplains, Fleet and Family Support Center services, Military OneSource, and medical professionals."
While visiting Panama, Hegseth told a reporter from Newsmax the situation aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln had been "completely misrepresented."
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"We make sure that every ship, every crew, every captain has everything we can provide them at every single moment," Hegseth said. "Some deployments are longer than others, and I have more respect and gratitude for those sailors than anybody. What they do in those high seas in those austere conditions with less port calls — it's incredible."
Links to the following:
Da Nang Dick's letter
Military Times
There's clearly a problem but you've got 5,000 sailors on the carrier. I would expect there to be a head case or two. I think we're seeing people jump to conclusions that what appears to be isolated incidents as becoming more of a norm. The other issues seem to be okay per the bolded text.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:36 pm to Bunk Moreland
In the old days of the Navy it was Rum, Buggery and the Lash. Nobody jumped overboard back then, unless it was for fun.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:38 pm to AGGIES
I watched a video earlier this year basically talking about this very thing. I didn’t know if there was anything to what it was saying but it said that the reason the Navy operates 11 carriers on the button is to prevent this type stuff with the crew. The video said that the Navy tried a few years back to retire a carrier early and make up for it with extended deployments among the fleet and found that nobody wanted to resign when it was time to get out. The were losing a lot of not just crew but pilots that are expensive to train. The divorce rates went up during that period among the fleet and the crew morale was low. Plus it put extra stress on all the ships and planes. So man and machine was breaking. So they learned that 11 carriers was the Goldilocks number of carriers.
We can’t operate more than 11 because we don’t have the infrastructure or the money to build them. With every carrier built it has to have escort ships to escort it and then all the planes and crew. We just simply can’t afford to build more.
We can’t operate more than 11 because we don’t have the infrastructure or the money to build them. With every carrier built it has to have escort ships to escort it and then all the planes and crew. We just simply can’t afford to build more.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:46 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Military life is rough. They know that when the join. Should not join if the can’t handle life on a boat at war.
Yeah, why don’t you try going almost a year on the water without a liberty call and get back to me?
This post was edited on 8/13/26 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:49 pm to AGGIES
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reports of some US sailors trying to jump overboard.
The Navy has too many females' and cuck males. Weed em out.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:49 pm to RollTide1987
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Yeah, why don’t you try going almost a year on the water without a liberty call and get back to me?
So boredom? Missing home? What are the stressors that make life on an Aircraft Carrier worse than grinding out combat ops on the ground during a longer length deployment away from home for Army combat arms units?
This post was edited on 8/13/26 at 6:51 pm
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