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re: US manufacturing labor productivity annual increase rises to a fifteen-year high.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:29 pm to Riverside
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:29 pm to Riverside
quote:Then tariffs have failed. By definition.
And yet that isn’t happening
quote:None of that is measured by productivity. It’s pretty clear you do t even know what it is, or what it’s measuring.
Instead the tariffs are allowing domestic companies to compete and expand now that President Trump has prevented dumping of cheaply made foreign manufactured goods into our markets.
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:30 pm to Powerman
How would your Kamala and Tim Walz numbers look right about now?
This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:30 pm to Powerman
"Is that why I acknowledged that it's a good thing?"
I apologize. I didn't see your begrudging "good news" sentence (followed by more shitting) buried under your expansive chart (used to minimize the "good news" as much as you could) posted after shitting on what everyone else had to say.
You're MAGA for sure, power bottom.
I apologize. I didn't see your begrudging "good news" sentence (followed by more shitting) buried under your expansive chart (used to minimize the "good news" as much as you could) posted after shitting on what everyone else had to say.
You're MAGA for sure, power bottom.
This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:31 pm to Riverside
quote:Nope It’s a ratio.
Productivity is still tied to output.
quote:I have a better time teaching my dog calculus at this point.
Output has increased because we are now onshoring manufacturing.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:34 pm to Riverside
quote:
You have severe TDS.
Then inevitable personal attack. quote:And I’ve been proven right.
You were spamming this Board a year ago with nonsense when the tariffs went into effect.
As noted if tariffs were working we expect productivity to fall and employment increasing as a result of the added inefficiency. This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:34 pm to Taxing Authority
The tariffs have been a massive success.
And it’s clear you don’t grasp the concept of productivity. In your flawed view, productivity is exclusively a function of technological gains, when in reality it’s measured by multiple different factors. Your analysis is flawed because you refuse to acknowledge the manufacturing renaissance we are witnessing in America thanks to the tariffs. This is probably because you aren’t engaged with the actual economy.
And it’s clear you don’t grasp the concept of productivity. In your flawed view, productivity is exclusively a function of technological gains, when in reality it’s measured by multiple different factors. Your analysis is flawed because you refuse to acknowledge the manufacturing renaissance we are witnessing in America thanks to the tariffs. This is probably because you aren’t engaged with the actual economy.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:35 pm to Riverside
quote:
The tariffs have been a massive success.
And it’s clear you don’t grasp the concept of productivity. In your flawed view, productivity is exclusively a function of technological gains, when in reality it’s measured by multiple different factors. Your analysis is flawed because you refuse to acknowledge the manufacturing renaissance we are witnessing in America thanks to the tariffs. This is probably because you aren’t engaged with the actual economy.
Why not give them spoons instead of shovels.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:36 pm to Riverside
quote:
you refuse to acknowledge the manufacturing renaissance we are witnessing in America thanks to the tariffs. This is probably because you aren’t engaged with the actual economy.
So we're supposed to take the word of an anonymous poster on Tiger Droppings who is clearly offering nothing more than anecdotal impressions over official data sources?
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:37 pm to FLTech
quote:
How would your Kamala and Tim Walz numbers look right about now?
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:38 pm to nealnan8
You almost had it but dropped the ball in the end.
US production increased in 25 and YTD 26, with fewer jobs, hence the increase in productivity.
I think a large part of our manufacturing issue is due to Vesta Stoudt. She invented duct tape and since then us rednecks stopped buying anything new, just fixed up the ole stuff.
US production increased in 25 and YTD 26, with fewer jobs, hence the increase in productivity.
I think a large part of our manufacturing issue is due to Vesta Stoudt. She invented duct tape and since then us rednecks stopped buying anything new, just fixed up the ole stuff.
This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:44 pm to Riverside
quote:
The tariffs have been a massive success.
quote:
And it’s clear you don’t grasp the concept of productivity.
quote:Nope. And never claimed that. I hope you don’t live in an HOA. They typically don’t like straw man’s that large.
In your flawed view, productivity is exclusively a function of technological gains,
quote:Manufactuing could quadruple overnight and productivity could remain constant. Hell, it could 10x and productivity could fall at the same time.
Your analysis is flawed because you refuse to acknowledge the manufacturing renaissance we are witnessing in America thanks to the tariffs.
quote:Hahahaha! I build economic decision-making models across multiple industries daily. You don’t even know what productivity index measure. We are not the same.
This is probably because you aren’t engaged with the actual economy.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:46 pm to gon33
quote:Right. Hire half the country to dig with spoons, hire the other half to fill up the holes—with spoons of course. Full employment. Just think of the “productivity”
Why not give them spoons instead of shovels.
we’d create.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:52 pm to Powerman
quote:
When you post the actual data and don't grab the dumbest fricking chart representation possible you'll get to the truth
which is exactly what you did to support your point
Posted on 4/3/26 at 2:25 pm to Powerman
That was Obama statement on Trump- what is Trump going to do wave a magic wand or something—
Posted on 4/3/26 at 2:28 pm to Night Vision
good job
Posted on 4/3/26 at 2:31 pm to Powerman
quote:
You didn't understand the context of the magic wand comment It's essentially the left's inept version of "good people on both sides"
Um thats the Democrat version of ignorance.
Obama didnt do shite for manufacturing. His words were "Folks, they aint coming back". And then Trump came in and brought them back
Good try though.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 2:41 pm to Riverside
Try again... I work for a mid-sized manufacturer w/ 600-700 million in revenue each year. While general manufacturing is not as bad as the original doomsayers predicted, it's certainly not booming. Although, there was a nice bump in new orders after Trump's tariffs were ruled illegal.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 4:16 pm to Night Vision
FWIW, pricing the dismantlement of a refinery in Australia, the labor cost was through the roof a decade ago. Australian workers are some of the least productive in the developed world. This is what happens when all political parties are OWNED by trade unions. I am not opposed to workers' right to form a union but when unions control everything then everything goes to shite.
The American worker is one of the most productive in cost per widget in the world. It is not true that Chinese have a productive workforce. They do have an extremely active subsidy program..
The American worker is one of the most productive in cost per widget in the world. It is not true that Chinese have a productive workforce. They do have an extremely active subsidy program..
Posted on 4/3/26 at 4:42 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
Your analysis is flawed because you refuse to acknowledge the manufacturing renaissance we are witnessing in America thanks to the tariffs.Manufactuing could quadruple overnight and productivity could remain constant. Hell, it could 10x and productivity could fall at the same time.
Well, Riverside is correct in a sense. We have lost 100k manufacturing jobs since tariffs were imposed. So, one can argue that tarrifs caused fewer workers to generate more output…
Presto….higher labor productivity
Posted on 4/3/26 at 4:47 pm to Powerman
quote:
Good news to be sure. Not the earth shattering representation your dumb arse chart shows
You said this wouldn't happen.
Just say it's good news, maybe I was wrong.
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