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re: U.S. drug overdose deaths fell by 20.6 percent over the course of one year
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:17 pm to beaux duke
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:17 pm to beaux duke
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:17 pm to the808bass
i just want to be sure we trust the cdc now
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:18 pm to beaux duke
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i just want to be sure we trust the cdc now
You don’t.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:19 pm to Hester Carries
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You don’t.
link?
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:21 pm to beaux duke
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link?
Well you were a dishonest fence sitter because the truth would have painted you into a corner. But giving you the full benefit of the doubt, saying “I don’t know” means “I neither believe it or disbelief it” which, get this, includes “I don’t believe it” as part of the statement
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:22 pm to Hester Carries
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We actually saw how they were measuring things.
This is the obvious response. Only a retard would refuse to acknowledge the many data games that were played during Covid.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:23 pm to Hester Carries
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Well you were a dishonest fence sitter because the truth would have painted you into a corner. But giving you the full benefit of the doubt, saying “I don’t know” means “I neither believe it or disbelief it” which, get this, includes “I don’t believe it” as part of the statement
so that's a no on the link
you just made it up
sad
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:26 pm to beaux duke
Do I trust the CDC to pass through raw numbers?
Mostly.
Do I think they like to skew data?
Sure. 0-19 gun deaths. Covid hospitalizations. Vaccine efficacy. Etc etc etc.
But the numbers are usually real. What they mean is up for debate as we are doing here.
Mostly.
Do I think they like to skew data?
Sure. 0-19 gun deaths. Covid hospitalizations. Vaccine efficacy. Etc etc etc.
But the numbers are usually real. What they mean is up for debate as we are doing here.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:28 pm to beaux duke
I have to link you to your own post? I made you saying “I don’t know” up?
There. It’s in this thread.
You are in a state of
1)not believing it
And
2)not disbelieving it
fricking playing chess with a pigeon. My god.
quote:
Do YOU believe it?
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i don't know
There. It’s in this thread.
You are in a state of
1)not believing it
And
2)not disbelieving it
fricking playing chess with a pigeon. My god.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:28 pm to the808bass
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But the numbers are usually real. What they mean is up for debate as we are doing here.
agree
have to get up early tmro, signing off, have a nice evening
Posted on 1/20/26 at 11:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
Just remember, Venezuela was all about drugs.
Clearly, drug addicts heard the news about Trump bombing a handful of boats and it inspired them to get off drugs. duh.
Clearly, drug addicts heard the news about Trump bombing a handful of boats and it inspired them to get off drugs. duh.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 2:10 am to hsfolk
He wasn’t president in 2024.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 2:35 am to 4cubbies
Playing devils advocate......
The distribution of Narcan exploded in 2023 when it was classified as OTC by Food and Drug. Wouldnt that have an impact on the reduction of "deaths"?
Its akin to saying Venezuelans lost on average over 20lbs due to healthier eating habits. Nah its cause they are friggin hungry.
The distribution of Narcan exploded in 2023 when it was classified as OTC by Food and Drug. Wouldnt that have an impact on the reduction of "deaths"?
Its akin to saying Venezuelans lost on average over 20lbs due to healthier eating habits. Nah its cause they are friggin hungry.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 6:48 am to beaux duke
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the same way you'd manipulate voter data?
sorry about your butthurt
Sorry you're a dork, dude. Have a good one.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 1/21/26 at 6:55 am to Clark W Griswold
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In the same year that illegal immigration was controlled?? No way!
Fyi Trump wasnt in office in 2024
I’d attribute the drop more to the widespread availability of narcan more than anything.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 6:56 am to Jjdoc
Democrats are in favor of ODing. News at 11.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 6:57 am to beaux duke
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so to be clear, this is one of those studies this board suddenly believes? now the cdc is credible?
Do you not believe it? Any thoughts of your own on the matter?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 7:16 am to Jjdoc
I woke up this morning secure in the thought that President Trump is in charge. He is saving lives - all while fixing this awful Joe Biden economy the crook left us.
I didn't think anyone could mess up an economy more than Barack Obama could.........but Joe Biden sure did.
.....and Gavin Newscum is not even a pimple on President Trump's a**.
President Trump is right about..........everything.

I didn't think anyone could mess up an economy more than Barack Obama could.........but Joe Biden sure did.
.....and Gavin Newscum is not even a pimple on President Trump's a**.
President Trump is right about..........everything.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 7:19 am
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:29 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I’d attribute the drop more to the widespread availability of narcan more than anything.
That's a definite contributor that may be more difficult to quantify. Also, we have seen a big increase in seizures at the border and tightening down on precursor ingredients. Both of those lead to a marked decrease in both fentanyl powder and pill potency. These efforts began to show up in 2021 when seizures at the border began to skyrocket, culminating in the 2023 peak. The approach which began in 2020 lead to markedly "weaker" fentanyl making it to the street level. Add in the increased pressure on china and the chemical companies in their country that began under Biden and has continued with Trump 2.0 and you begin to get the picture of how we've managed to stem the flood of fentanyl-related OD deaths in the country.
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