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Posted on 4/30/22 at 12:45 pm to LSUconvert
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Why would I be trying to argue with you?
Where did I say you were arguing with me?
Posted on 4/30/22 at 3:01 pm to Eurocat
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Go to a hospital with chest pains and they will patch you up but it might take weeks to see a cardiologist after that.
Utter and complete bullshite
Posted on 4/30/22 at 3:49 pm to LSUconvert
quote:he's seriously kicking your arse. You should probably just take the L and walk away
Children who need their mothers to wipe their arse know more about the functioning of our government than you.
This post was edited on 4/30/22 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 4/30/22 at 4:44 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Private hospitals and private insurance are far from perfect, but they are a 100 times better than government run hospitals and insurance based on what I have seen first hand.
This is the absolute truth. With universal healthcare, people have to wait months, or even years for a hip replacement. In the US, from my diagnosis to replacement surgery took 2 weeks. Could have been sooner but I had to attend training classes.
Universal health care sucks.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:41 pm to Azkiger
quote:Those "universal" healthcare systems deny care all the time. Both directly and indirectly (via wait times).
Sure, you might never be denied care, but if you're very sick you probably won't live long enough to receive that care.
As I asked in the thread that inspired this one, why don't indigent people in the US travel to these countries for free care?
Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:47 pm to WeeWee
quote:Public healthcare:public eductaion :: private healthcare:private education.
Private hospitals and private insurance are far from perfect, but they are a 100 times better than government run hospitals and insurance based on what I have seen first hand.
Imagine your local public school administrators running a hospital.
This post was edited on 4/30/22 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:47 pm to LSUconvert
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It is. Healthcare systems that are reliant on the free market have failed catastrophically, every time.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:55 pm to LSUconvert
It’s quite clear you don’t understand anything about administration and bureaucracy.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 7:13 pm to Eurocat
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You have your anecdotal experience, but there are many examples of the opposite.
Working in Healthcare, if the European or Canadian systems are so good, why do many of their best and brightest physicians come here to practice? I know because I talked with these Doctors? Let’s hear Eurocat’s reply!
Posted on 4/30/22 at 7:24 pm to Eurocat
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There is a world wide doctor shortage.
All thanks to Chyna and the Dems releasing a virus in response to mean tweets.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 5:45 am to LSUconvert
quote:If you approach the exchange as a discussion rather than an ""argument"" (which in this pretext carries none of the term's academic politesse) you and/or your foil might just learn something.
Why would I be trying to argue with you?
e.g.,
You said, "Any country where this is the case (where the Healthcare system is driven by the free market), isn't one where you'd want to live."
It's an opinion which could be technically correct or profoundly incorrect, depending on its basis. But you've not provided that basis. So instead the subsequent conversation devolves into invective-ladened derision.
The same could be said of your statement,
"Of course there is upward pressure. What's the upward pressure in any government system?"
Obviously, to engage this, we'd first need to sort out our various understandings of the term "upward" as it pertains to progress in healthcare. But in the end, you'd have a VERY challenging task if you aimed to demonstrate increasing healthcare innovation, discovery, or capacity while migrating continually leftward on the international political spectrum.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 5:56 am to Eurocat
quote:Care to guess why?
There is a world wide doctor shortage.
The government thesis is more doctors = more access. More access = more expense. Therefore downward pressure is placed on the number of doctors being trained.
... and there it is.
But government-run healthcare is wonderful. Right?
Posted on 5/1/22 at 7:09 am to NC_Tigah
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Therefore downward pressure is placed on the number of doctors being trained.
How is this done?
Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:31 am to NC_Tigah
quote:There you go again. Using a word I had to look up and now I'll have to work into a conversation this week.
politesse
Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:34 am to Azkiger
I laugh when people say our health care ranks 20th worldwide when most of those countries have to wait weeks, or even months, to see the correct Doctor.
I can see the right Doctor within days.
Hell, I haven’t even seen my regular GP since 2018, I’ll schedule an appointment directly with a specialist.
I can see the right Doctor within days.
Hell, I haven’t even seen my regular GP since 2018, I’ll schedule an appointment directly with a specialist.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:35 am to David_DJS
quote:Residency training numbers and funding are controlled vis-a-vis CMS.
How is this done?
Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:45 am to Azkiger
I saw that no healthcare system is without it's flaws, but it never made sense to me when people criticize universal healthcare because it provides healthcare access to more people who would otherwise be unable to afford it.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:46 am to NC_Tigah
quote:From what I find, medical school graduates have increased some 30% since early 2000s while residency spots across the country have remained somewhat flat (maybe a small increase but far outpaced by the number of graduating medical students). What does a medical school grad do if they don't match; leave the country?
Residency training numbers and funding are controlled vis-a-vis CMS.
Posted on 5/1/22 at 12:43 pm to BulldogXero
quote:Read the whole thread and acquaint yourself. Plenty of things wrong with it. Think Post Office or the VA hospitals with government run crap.
I saw that no healthcare system is without it's flaws, but it never made sense to me when people criticize universal healthcare because it provides healthcare access to more people who would otherwise be unable to afford it.
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