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re: Universal Healthcare systems are broken...
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:49 am to the808bass
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:49 am to the808bass
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But in a government system, there would be almost no upward pressure on benefits offered.
Of course there is upward pressure. What's the upward pressure in any government system? I'm sure even you can nail this.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:50 am to the808bass
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Sooooo scary.
It is. Healthcare systems that are reliant on the free market have failed catastrophically, every time.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:50 am to LSUconvert
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Of course there is upward pressure. What's the upward pressure in any government system?
Upward pressure on an appointed bureaucrat?
What pressure do I exert on the NIH grant process as a normal citizen? That would the analogy to my upward pressure on universal healthcare.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:51 am to the808bass
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What pressure do I exert on the NIH grant process as a normal citizen?
I see someone didn't take an elementary civics class. How unfortunate for whatever community you grew up in.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:52 am to LSUconvert
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Healthcare systems that are reliant on the free market have failed catastrophically, every time.
I’m quite confident your definition of failure and mine are almost wholly divergent.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:53 am to LSUconvert
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I see someone didn't take an elementary civics class. How unfortunate for whatever community you grew up in.
I see someone was in a coma for the last two years.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:54 am to the808bass
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I’m quite confident your definition of failure and mine are almost wholly divergent.
It doesn't matter what YOUR definition of failure is.
Healthcare systems that rely on the free market have always failed catastrophically if your definition of failure is as follows
Definition of failure
1a: omission of occurrence or performance
specifically : a failing to perform a duty or expected action
failure to pay the rent on time
b(1): a state of inability to perform a normal function
kidney failure
— compare HEART FAILURE
(2): an abrupt cessation of normal functioning
a power failure
c: a fracturing or giving way under stress
structural failure
2a: lack of success
b: a failing in business : BANKRUPTCY
He was trying to rescue the company from failure.
3a: a falling short : DEFICIENCY
a crop failure
b: DETERIORATION, DECAY
4: one that has failed
He felt like a failure when he wasn't accepted into law school.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:55 am to the808bass
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I see someone was in a coma for the last two years.
Imagine trying to use a conspiracy theory in an actual conversation
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:57 am to LSUconvert
There’s bo conspiracy theory involved in my assertion. You’re almost retarded.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:58 am to LSUconvert
I refer you to my statement regarding your mental competence once more.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:59 am to the808bass
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There’s bo conspiracy theory involved in my assertion.
Then you're admitting you don't understand what pressure can be exerted on government entities? I'm not sure proclaiming your community didn't provide you with basic elementary level education is really something to brag about.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 12:01 pm to Eurocat
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You have your anecdotal experience, but there are many examples of the opposite.
I had the opportunity to do clinical rotations in the UK and the Netherlands during medical school. I also did rotations at and moonlighted at the VA hospitals in Clarksburg WV and Pittsburgh Pa during residency. Private hospitals and private insurance are far from perfect, but they are a 100 times better than government run hospitals and insurance based on what I have seen first hand.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 12:07 pm to LSUconvert
quote:That's categorically false, of course.
Healthcare systems that rely on the free market have always failed catastrophically
Posted on 4/30/22 at 12:09 pm to LSUconvert
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Any country where this is the case, isn't one where you'd want to live.
Figures the resident prog would be against consensual transactions.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 12:13 pm to LSUconvert
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I'm not sure proclaiming your community didn't provide you with basic elementary level education is really something to brag about.
People can vote for broad initiatives. They can support universal healthcare. They have no control over implementation details.
People loved the idea of Obamacare. No one voted for $3500 deductibles and 30% increases in premiums at the same time.
You’re a fricking imbecile who shouldn’t discuss anything more complicated than preparing a bowl of cereal.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 12:18 pm to Azkiger
quote:Perhaps depending on definition of "free-market" he could make the argument. Factually, few men or women chose medicine as a career for sole "market" reasons. So in practice, inherent field altruism would always render hazards of free-market moot.
Any country where this is the case, isn't one where you'd want to live.
Figures the resident prog would be against consensual transactions.
This post was edited on 4/30/22 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 4/30/22 at 12:23 pm to the808bass
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They have no control
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You’re a fricking imbecile who shouldn’t discuss anything more complicated than preparing a bowl of cereal.
You don't understand basic civics. I'm not exaggerating or using hyperbole to make a point, a literal 3rd grader could explain to you why you're wrong.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 12:26 pm to LSUconvert
You can selectively quote me all you’d like. My statements are 100% true. The fact you can’t even quote the whole sentence is further evidence of their axiomatic qualities.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 12:29 pm to the808bass
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The fact you can’t even quote the whole sentence is further evidence of their axiomatic qualities.
Imagine in your head I quoted all of your pointless words. They're all wrong.
Children who need their mothers to wipe their arse know more about the functioning of our government than you.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 12:37 pm to LSUconvert
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LSUconvert
You've posted nearly a dozen times in this thread and contributed nothing but a vague warning about how free-market healthcare systems always fail.
The only thing you've said that even approaches an argument is your bit of "here's the dictionary definition of the word failure therefore everyone must have the same end goals in mind so there can be no disagreement if a thing fails or not."
Let the progs who have mastered yalls marching orders better chime in. You're an embarrassment.
This post was edited on 4/30/22 at 12:39 pm
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