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re: Ukraine is becoming a terrorist state funded the the west

Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:55 am to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:55 am to
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Trumps rare earth deal is essentially meaningless because it is not binding. Ukraine decides what they want to give the us if anything. It’s purely symbolic.

And then there is the issue with the UK deal which includes rare earth rights that was signed long before our deal. And the fact that Zelensky was shopping a similar deal to France as far back as before the original deal with the US was announced.

Just one big mess.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173624 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:56 am to
I love these insane takes where Russia never had to accept any responsibility
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:58 am to
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Your definition is arse.


Take it up with the FBI, State Department and DOD.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10343 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:59 am to
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Europe wants the grain to stop buying US. Europe will end up with the rare earths. Trumps rare earth deal is essentially meaningless because it is not binding. Ukraine decides what they want to give the us if anything. It’s purely symbolic.


You’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. If Russia takes those lands… we don’t have access to them. Trump wants the peace deal because ending the war now gives us access. Trump is thinking long term here and rightly so. No one wants Russia in control of more grain exports as they’re not trustworthy. Just like they wield energy as a weapon they’ll do it with grains too. From their perspective that’s smart. But it’s a pain in the arse for much of the world. I’m sure China would have no problems whatsoever though and would appreciate it.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
11326 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:59 am to
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The use of unlawful violence or the threat of violence to achieve religious or political ends.


Otherwise, every single act of war would be considered an act of terrorism.

Edit to add: most countries also add in "violence or threat of violence against civilians to achieve..." to further differentiate between terrorism and war
This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 12:01 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28569 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:01 pm to
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I hate to say it but these state sponsored assassinations and terrorists attacks should be a wake up call to peace loving people.

Russia has invaded Ukraine and is using its bombers to bomb Ukrainian civilians. If Russia wants peace, it can remove its troops from Ukraine and stop bombing Ukranians.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:02 pm to
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In Japan we said we were justified to use nukes to avoid mass casualties caused by a mass invasion of Japan.

I think Russia has the same calculus now.


100%. In order to avoid mass Ukrainian Casualties, Tactical Nuclear Warheads on Oreshnik Missiles would do the trick
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90544 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:07 pm to
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Tactical Nuclear Warheads on Oreshnik Missiles would do the trick
Man you are one Russian blowing mo fo.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10747 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:09 pm to
Sure we do. We just make a deal with Russia for rare earths. Which they will give us. Russia wants a normal economy. Europe is doing all they can to keep Russia from having a normal economy.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Russia has invaded Ukraine and is using its bombers to bomb Ukrainian civilians. If Russia wants peace, it can remove its troops from Ukraine and stop bombing Ukranians.


At least be realistic dude.

Russia doesn’t want peace. Or at least they don’t want it on someone else’s terms. Neither does Ukraine. That’s how wars work
This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:12 pm to
Hamas kills civilians=bad

Ukraine kills civilians with car bombs and sabotaging train tracks=good
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128777 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:47 pm to
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Take it up with the FBI, State Department and DOD.


I don’t have to. That’s not their definition.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:53 pm to
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I don’t have to. That’s not their definition.


Sure it is. You know it is because you had to google it. And you know that what I said is essentially exactly what their definition is in fewer words.

It’s not my fault that you’ve never bothered to actually learn the definition until today and have relied on Hollywood and media talking heads to educate you.

It’s good you now know it though. You’re welcome. I’m glad I could inspire you to become less ignorant.
This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17279 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:24 pm to
frick Ukraine.

They don’t want peace. They want their way. We should dump them and let Putin do whatever he wants to them.

Let’s see how well they do without us.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22013 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:26 pm to
"Ruthless & morally questionable tactics"... Many, many of the SS guards at Auschwitz were Ukrainian SS. The country welcomed the Nazis troops, on their way to Russia, as saviors & covered them in flowers. No fan of KGB Putin but historical facts are historical facts.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17279 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:30 pm to
The only reason I wanted Trump to be remotely involved with these people is to avoid nuclear war.

No - Russia should not use nuclear weapons- but we need to cut Ukraine loose. How in the actual hell does this help anyone or anything.

Ukraine planned this shite with Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal. Lindsey needs to be tried for treason.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:42 pm to
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In Japan we said we were justified to use nukes to avoid mass casualties caused by a mass invasion of Japan.

I think Russia has the same calculus now.



Except Russia has the ability to end the war today, right now, without any casualties. No nukes or anything else required
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5047 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:46 pm to
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In Japan we said we were justified to use nukes to avoid mass casualties caused by a mass invasion of Japan. I think Russia has the same calculus now.


I mean, some of yall are certifiably insane or irretrievably stupid. Maybe both. Do you even read what you post before you hit submit?
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23248 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:53 pm to
I am extremely curious to see how long it takes for you to completely abandon your supposed MAGA coat when Trump vocally opposes Putin instead of continuing to enable him. 1 hour? 1 day? 1 tweet? Because it's pretty naive to think the US had no hand or prior knowledge in this airbase attack.

It's a rhetorical question, BTW. I don't need a tweet in response.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13208 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:58 pm to
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Ukraine is becoming a terrorist state funded the the west


Russia is fighting a fricking war with them, buddy.
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