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re: UK, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, & Japan to now help with Strait of Hormuz

Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16316 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:02 pm to
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expressing their “readiness to contribute to appropriate efforts”


Talk about word salad


Chat GBT refers to it as...

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The joint statement is deliberately vague and does not assign specific roles to each country—it outlines collective intentions, not individual contributions.


In other words just bs politicking to try to keep morale high and bullshite the US citizens along pretending that there is some sort of coalition.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11400 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:20 pm to
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The joint statement is deliberately vague and does not assign specific roles to each country—it outlines collective intentions, not individual contributions.

In other words just bs politicking to try to keep morale high and bullshite the US citizens along pretending that there is some sort of coalition.


Did you really expect operational details in a press release?
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10226 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:21 pm to
Diesel is €2.20 a liter here and Unleaded is €2.00 a liter it would be in their interest to do so. That would come out with the currenty to $9.83 per gallon of Diesel and $8.93 per gallon gas. That is about the highest I have seen it. Inflation just started to get under control here. This stays like this another month people are really going to get squeezed here.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10018 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:24 pm to
The man is the best President EVER!! Except the OG Washington.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:36 pm to
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Didn't I read a headline early this morning that Macron said they would never help?


You may had read that headline but it’s not what he said.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41097 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:46 pm to
Our “allies” are a lot like many of our citizens

They all want free shite from the US Government without having to work for it.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143856 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:49 pm to
bUT whAT iS da pLaN?

Trump makes Euros bend their knees and open their throats yet again.

Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1703 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:56 pm to
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trump was twisting arms for sure. but who had the leverage here? i bet those countries asked for and got everything they wanted. trump is a desperate man right now.


That's some fricking mental gymnastics right there. Holy shite.


No - he is probably right. Trump said, "ok, our bases are closing and our troops are coming home"...and those countries replied with "how can we help?"
Posted by junkyarddawg3
Metro ATL
Member since Nov 2015
1343 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:57 pm to
Did we (USA) gain anything by waiting until now to have our ducks in a row regarding international cooperation?

I’m only asking because I’m ignorant to this situation.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10382 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:01 pm to
Why do the basics of english grammer always suddenly get lost by yall when the (frequent) possibility of being wrong pops up?
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10382 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:04 pm to
Where at exactly? I dont necessarily presume it varies in price too much in the EU.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23264 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:05 pm to
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trump was twisting arms for sure. but who had the leverage here? i bet those countries asked for and got everything they wanted. trump is a desperate man right now.




They know who is in charge and certainly want to be the first in line. If I am POTUS Trump, I tell England and France to stay the >>>> away and I do it very publicly!!
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10958 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:19 pm to
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I'm pretty sure tariffs were brought up


Or who Putin invades next after Trump pulls the US out of NATO.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2788 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:16 pm to
People tend to forget that if we wanted to, we can meet our domestic demand for fuel purely on production in our part of the world and localized refining. The problem is that to do so would require some type of war powers act to force the oil and gas firms to only distribute locally and not to ship overseas.

On the flip side, Japan and the EU would implode, and local prices would spiral. In this scenario we can wait out the rest of the world, no problem.

So yeah, it sounds cool to talk tough about not helping the US but they know that if the US says "not my problem then you fix it yourself because we can just use our own local supplies" they are in even greater trouble because they don't have the sea power to do it on their own.

One of the saddest things the rest of the world is learning is that the great navies of Europe of old no longer exist. This is something people saw draw down on paper, but we are finally being forced to reckon with the realization of what that means with the abject inability of Europe to project any sea power to the level to mitigate an already defeated Iranian military.
Posted by VerbalKint
Member since Jun 2017
4246 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:20 pm to
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texas tortilla


This guy pees sitting down
Posted by VerbalKint
Member since Jun 2017
4246 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:21 pm to
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Why do the basics of english grammer



It’s grammar, nitwit.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91121 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:25 pm to
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trump is a desperate man right now.


Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
30062 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:28 pm to
Jack Prandelli
@jackprandelli

Europe and the US spent a decade closing refineries

Asia spent a decade building them

Seemed smart at the time.

Now Hormuz is closed & Ras Laffan is burning.

The crude can't move east

The refining capacity doesn't exist in the west.

Nobody planned for this.

West: no refining capacity

East: refining capacity, no crude

The war didn't create this problem.

It just exposed how broken the system already was.

This is what energy policy built on assumptions looks like when reality hits.

Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38368 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:28 pm to
Yeah that was a real “ hey dickheads .. you want your oil? Then help us the frick out and quit trying to stick it to Trump or everyone will suffer “
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
30062 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:34 pm to
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170 scientists signed a letter to Biden "imploring" him to ban new LNG terminals. The White House published a press release celebrating the decision. The Sierra Club cheered. Food & Water Watch cheered. The entire progressive climate apparatus celebrated what they believed was the beginning of the end for American natural gas exports.

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Qatar. That's the place to remember.

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Trump reversed the pause on Day One. January 20th, 2025. Executive Order 14154, "Unleashing American Energy." The DOE resumed permit processing immediately. Commonwealth LNG in Louisiana received the first approval on February 14th, 2025. Energy Secretary Chris Wright declared a return to "regular order." The pipeline of pending projects... CP2 in Louisiana, Sabine Pass expansion, Lake Charles terminal, Port Arthur Phase 2 in Texas... began moving again.

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Now look at today. March 19th, 2026.

Qatar just lost 17% of its LNG export capacity for three to five years. Iranian missiles damaged two LNG trains and a GTL facility at Ras Laffan. QatarEnergy CEO Saad al-Kaabi confirmed $20 billion per year in lost revenue. Force majeure declared on contracts to Italy, Belgium, South Korea, and China. 12.8 million tons per year offline. The world's "most reliable" LNG supplier just became unreliable overnight... because it sits next to a war zone that American climate activists never thought to factor into their environmental models.

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Energy policy is national security. Biden forgot that. The world is remembering it right now... at $25 gas in Asia, $113 oil in Europe, and force majeure notices from a burning LNG facility in Qatar.

Trump said the war on American energy was over. He was right. But the damage from the last one hasn't finished arriving yet.



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