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re: Trump to Speak to Striking Union Members in Detroit, Skipping 2nd G.O.P. Debate
Posted on 9/19/23 at 9:58 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 9/19/23 at 9:58 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Trump made huge strides with Unions first time around. Most of those people are center-right anyway with good American values.
They simply voted Democrat for the same reason blacks do. Because they believed the Republicans were against them because Democrats said they were.
People are waking up.
They simply voted Democrat for the same reason blacks do. Because they believed the Republicans were against them because Democrats said they were.
People are waking up.
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Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:03 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
The strike is all about EVs. Trump's instincts are impressive,
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:07 am to moneyg
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Leadership is pretty much defined as getting people who are beneath you to follow you.
And you want to nominate the dude who's repeatedly failed at that because...polls.
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It's direct correlation of what people want.
No, it isn't. You don't know anything about data analysis, and you really ought to stop trying.
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I'm smarter than you are and I would never think it's my place to tell everyone what is in their best interest.
You aren't. I dont think you're part of the 90%, but you're close.
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I'm definitely not like you.
I know you aren't. You're part of the problem.
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And, I sure as hell don't think our democratic republic should be manipulated to ensure my choices are elected.
Sure you do. You're just like the Democrats, you just support different methods.
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Desantis isn't even in the race to win at this point. You haven't even figured that part out yet. You are at least two steps behind.
Keep repeating this lie.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:07 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
He is too good for Republicans. Republicans just want to lose at stuff so they can complain about it on the internet.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:08 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
A lot of the rank and file in Unions (especially in the Teamsters) are pretty heavy Trump supporters. This is why I don't get some people attacking them for wanting higher wages, etc. These woke corporations deserve everything they get.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:12 am to moneyg
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cry? whine? Whatever word you are comfortable with is ok with me.
Let's go with the actual meaning of the words I posted. Why do you always make shite up? You should be able to pose arguments/views without having to fabricate what you're arguing against.
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And, I corrected you that there is no "running from" going on.
No correction needed. It's normal for leading candidates to debate. Trump isn't. Katie Hobbs didn't. Trump and Hobbs ran from the debates.
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You didn't realize it was going to happen.
You suffer from delusions of grandeur. You really arn't that smart, moneyg, and it is not hard to keep up with your thinking once you've expressed it in recognizable English.
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The polling in the two races couldn't be further apart.
I didn't say anything about polling. Polling isn't why avoiding the debates was good strategy for Trump and Hobbs. It was good strategy because of what I posted - they only had something to lose in debates. Hobbs because she's retarded, and the less Arizonans saw/heard from her the better her chances. Trump because he has a record he doesn't want to be pressed on.
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But, I realize you need that rationalization to make you feel better for supporting a candidate who is getting ABSOLUTELY CRUSHED.
This is seriously weird, but it shines some light on your emotional state where Trump is concerned. A normal adult male does not get emotionally involved with the politicians he favors. I don't need to feel better about DeSantis being crushed in polls because RDS isn't in my family or a close personal friend - he's just a politician I believe would be a better president than the guy you're emotionally involved with.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:17 am to SDVTiger
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That will stir up the hornets nest
Doing this is common sense.
Biden wants to promote higher pay and benefits, but his policies will push manufacturing jobs overseas. He wants to push a liberal agenda, but will just deny any responsibility for the predictable outcome of his policies.
Trump's promise will be to keep those jobs in America and for Americans to have more choices of American-made goods and for America to consume more goods made in America and not China.
Trump has pointed out that it is not a good idea for us to rely on medicines, energy, steel, computer chips, etc, that are made by countries that are not necessarily friendly to the US. That's just common sense and would only come from someone who is not a politician. I suspect that a lot of Republicans are getting pushback from their donors as a result of Trump's agenda. The globalists aren't fans of it.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:20 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Wonder if he can cut a deal for everyone
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:21 am to Jon Ham
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Jon Ham
Isn't it time for your bottle and a nap?
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:27 am to Contra
They changed when Trump came along. Before Trump, the Unions were brow beaten to vote Democrat.
I think many have noticed that Democrats have abandoned the working class.
I think many have noticed that Democrats have abandoned the working class.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:29 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Very smart move.
Vivek will be attacked by the neocons; and Meatball will not be the middle podium and try to fake he is America First and bop his head.
Vivek will be attacked by the neocons; and Meatball will not be the middle podium and try to fake he is America First and bop his head.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:33 am to Lou Pai
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$100k+ and a pension to work 32 hours a week, driving up costs for consumers when it already costs $60k to buy an F-150 now
Siding with these shitstains is something only a leftist would do
Seems like you will be voting trump or the demcorat then.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 10:59 am to David_DJS
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Let's go with the actual meaning of the words I posted. Why do you always make shite up? You should be able to pose arguments/views without having to fabricate what you're arguing against.
crying? whining? bleeding? All are good descriptions of your daily posts here. I used a much nicer word (complaining.) quote:
No correction needed. It's normal for leading candidates to debate. Trump isn't. Katie Hobbs didn't. Trump and Hobbs ran from the debates.
There's nothing normal about this election. The entire strategy of the Desantis campaign (And Christie, Pence, Hutchinson, etc.) is to hurt Trump in the general. That's anything but normal.
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You suffer from delusions of grandeur. You really arn't that smart, moneyg, and it is not hard to keep up with your thinking once you've expressed it in recognizable English.
I'm smarter than you, but who cares. I've been right about this race from the start. You've been wrong from the start.
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I didn't say anything about polling. Polling isn't why avoiding the debates was good strategy for Trump and Hobbs.
Polling, along with the fact that there is a general election ahead, and knowledge that these debates aren't meant to address the primary are the reasons Trump isn't debating. Polling WASN'T the reason Hobbs wasn't debating. Polling showed a very close race. Again, the two situations are very different.
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This is seriously weird, but it shines some light on your emotional state where Trump is concerned. A normal adult male does not get emotionally involved with the politicians he favors. I don't need to feel better about DeSantis being crushed in polls because RDS isn't in my family or a close personal friend - he's just a politician I believe would be a better president than the guy you're emotionally involved with.
I'm not the one trying to find a sliver of comfort by inaccurately describing Trump's decisions. You are literally coping for your disappointment. That's emotion, dude.
The truth is what I said. Desantis wasn't able to make this close enough to force Trump into a debate. And, Trump is way too clever to be lured into a trap. It's quite amazing how effective Trump has been. You never even got to execute your plan (political). A lot of you guys were waiting for this race to start, and it was over before it did. That's how out of touch you were.
Now, we are down to the extra-political plans. Sure, Desantis will try to float some things against Trump to harm him in the general like he is today with the abortion issue. But, it will get little traction, IMO. But, again, as I've predicted, he continues to stay in the race. And, he will continue until he's told not to (which will be a long while).
We're mostly down to the keeping him off the ballot attempts and the indictments. There's still hope for you there.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 11:45 am to David_DJS
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Why do you always make shite up? You should be able to pose arguments/views without having to fabricate what you're arguing against.
I think people will realize this more and more when they interact with him. He's not worth serious discussion. I knew that when he tried, and failed, to argue with me about the methodology for some specific polls.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 12:00 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Bad choice IMO… giving Biden ammo for skipping debates in 2024.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 12:01 pm to nes2010
quote:Chicken. (no offense to our Chicken)
Skipping 2nd G.O.P. Debate
quote:Literally straight out the Democrat platform.
Standing up for unions.
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“Stand strong against Biden’s vicious attack on American labor and American auto workers,” Trump said in a statement Wednesday. “And if you want more jobs, higher wages and soaring pensions, vote for President Trump and have your leaders endorse me.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 12:04 pm to POTUS2024
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Curious what his message will be
He will sell his soul to them on the chance he will pick up votes, just as he seems to be trying to do to every group these days.
Trans
Abortion... Wonder how many abortions Trump has paid for?
"Everybody is gonna like me. I really believe both sides will like me."
Cringe as f.
This post was edited on 9/19/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 9/19/23 at 12:06 pm to David_DJS
quote:Silly spin. This stage is far less impressive than that of 2016. Trump owned the 2016 stage. So he's not "running from" the stage, he's simply electing not to participate.
it was smart for Trump to run from the debates
Comparison with Hobbs is farcical. Hobbs was scared to death of debating Lake. She was scared to death of reporters as well. Her calculation was however many points she lost in running from a debate, she would have lost far more had she shared the stage with Lake.
Then again after the Fetterman fiasco, one could legitimately ask WTF difference debates actually make.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 12:14 pm to NC_Tigah
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Silly spin. This stage is far less impressive than that of 2016. Trump owned the 2016 stage. So he's not "running from" the stage, he's simply electing not to participate.
Reality is about mid-point between my spin and yours.
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Her calculation was however many points she lost in running from a debate, she would have lost far more had she shared the stage with Lake.
You didn't say anything I didn't post.
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Then again after the Fetterman fiasco, one could legitimately ask WTF difference debates actually make.
Good point, but probably not a good development for elections broadly.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 12:18 pm to NC_Tigah
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This stage is far less impressive than that of 2016. Trump owned the 2016 stage. So he's not "running from" the stage, he's simply electing not to participate.
It isn't 2016. People should be demanding that he go on stage and defend his record, not giving him a pass becuase...I guess #HisTurn.
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