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re: Trump to sign Executive Order ending birth right citizenship for kids of illegals on Day 1
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:10 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:10 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
He knows this will go to SCOTUS and he's fine with that
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:11 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Wow, didn't see this, and just posted it as a 'Muh Dictator' policy in the 'Senate Race' Thread.
A lot of illegal immigrants used the 'rent a kid' mechanism when they filed papers to enter the US. And are likely getting Benefits accordingly. Blatant Fraud, and now way they should be able to use a childbirth since entering to stay in the US. Of course, there could be mitigating factors, gainful employment for starters.
A lot of illegal immigrants used the 'rent a kid' mechanism when they filed papers to enter the US. And are likely getting Benefits accordingly. Blatant Fraud, and now way they should be able to use a childbirth since entering to stay in the US. Of course, there could be mitigating factors, gainful employment for starters.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:12 am to Trapped in time
I was also thinking it would take an amendment to the constitution. I might be wrong though...
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:12 am to SDVTiger
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Will need to kill the filibuster
Bad move.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:12 am to CU_Tigers4life
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He knows this will go to SCOTUS and he's fine with that
I'd be happy to put this off until Roberts is gone.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:12 am to Tiger985
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This anchor baby situation has long been debated. I think Trump is trying to get it into the court system and let's see what happens.
That is exactly what he is doing and probably feels good about his chances while we have a conservative SCOTUS
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:12 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Not a fan of every thing having to be done by EO, but Congress is feckless. So if this puts it in thr spotlight and forces Congress’ hands to be active FOR our country, then EO away.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:13 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I hope he really does it in this term. IIRC last term he floated a lot of trial balloons about signing an EO to stop birthright citizenship but was thwarted by advice from his DOJ.
We'll see. This is why the appointment of the right and proper AG is so important. He and Trump have to be on the same page.
We'll see. This is why the appointment of the right and proper AG is so important. He and Trump have to be on the same page.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:14 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I’m harder than a frozen diamond right now
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:15 am to 14&Counting
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This anchor baby situation has long been debated. I think Trump is trying to get it into the court system and let's see what happens.
That is exactly what he is doing and probably feels good about his chances while we have a conservative SCOTUS
He needs an AG that is willing to fight this issue. Last term he did not have that.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:16 am to GumboPot
Good next move is for the Supreme Court to rule
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:16 am to lsuguy84
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Good start, but let’s get these things passed into law. That only gets us to the next administration who can get rid of it.
Exactly.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:17 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Oh God let it be true.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:17 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
And wont get much flak over. because the LatinX vote did Kamala in this cycle
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:17 am to Trapped in time
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Wouldn’t that take a constitutional amendment?
Possibly. I don't know if that issue has fully been decided by the USSC. But that's the underlying reason for the EO...to try to get the issue before the USSC. He knows adverse groups will challenge the EO
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:18 am to SDVTiger
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Will need to kill the filibuster
Dangerous precedent.
Opens future Congress to change anything you’ve implemented
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:19 am to CU_Tigers4life
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He knows this will go to SCOTUS and he's fine with that
Even a Scalia type would probably strike this down since it's made so clear in the Constitution that anyone born here can be a citizen. But what the hell. They do it. Playbtheirnstupid games, too and see what happens.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:20 am to 14&Counting
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conservative SCOTUS
Unlikely on this issue.
You have three, three wacko liberals who will love anchor babies.
The conservatives are a mixture of originalist and textualist.
They will very likely split on this issue meaning Trump doesn't have the numbers.
But it's certainly worth a shot.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:20 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
He promised this last time. Birthright citizenship for anchor babies is a myth - it's never been a law, it was a footnote in a SCOTUS opinion. It's not a holding. It's not even dicta. This EO is all it takes - let them challenge it in court then tell the courts to pound sand.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:20 am to thetempleowl
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I was also thinking it would take an amendment to the constitution. I might be wrong though...
No, it will take Supreme Court clarification, which this EO would force.
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