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re: Trump tax return decisions coming shortly SCOTUS 7-2, 7-2
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:01 am to coozie
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:01 am to coozie
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He's under investigation in Manhattan about whether or not the Trump organization falsified financial documents in order to hide hush money payments to two women Trump slept with before the election.
So... in other words...
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:02 am to coozie
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why is it that no one on this board can understand basic legal concepts?
I'm an actual lawyer, I understand legal concepts just fine. Both decisions seem reasonable.
My point was that the "criminal investigation" he is under is an obvious political sham. While he is in the most technical sense, under "criminal investigation", in any real sense he isn't given how stupid it is.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:03 am to coozie
The posters on this board seem to have exceptionally rustled jimmies at the moment.
To make all of you feel better, note that this will take time to sort out. It'll be probably over a year before these documents ever get in the hands of the Manhattan DA.
From CNN's Jeffrey Toobin:
To make all of you feel better, note that this will take time to sort out. It'll be probably over a year before these documents ever get in the hands of the Manhattan DA.
From CNN's Jeffrey Toobin:
quote:
“The idea that the President can't be subpoenaed is completely rejected by the Supreme Court, and that even the two dissenting justices agree on,” CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin explains. “All nine also agree that the case should go back to the district court. The practical victory for the President is that the legal proceedings will continue.”
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:04 am to AggieHank86
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As a strict constructionist, I think it is a terrible decision. As a political being, I think it reflects sound policy.
Glad to see you’re so principled. You question others for having the same double standard. Pathetic.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:04 am to coozie
quote:
It'll be probably over a year
Likely much longer than that.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:06 am to Fun Bunch
Unless he loses the re-elect in which case all these presidential privelege issues are moot.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:07 am to jatilen
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Because the grand jury process is confidential, the rulings make it likely that none of Trump’s financial records will become public soon.
Yeah. Grand jury confidentiality and it won't be public soon
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:08 am to TigerDoc
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Unless he loses the re-elect in which case all these presidential privelege issues are moot.
Also the cases will disappear as if by magic.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:09 am to AggieHank86
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All the reasons have been explained here for months.
Explain them. You can give a summary.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:09 am to AggieHank86
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As a political being, I think it reflects sound policy.
Yeah, Roe doesn't just conflict with this, it nukes it off of the face of the earth:
No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
And GTFOH with the "it's not a person" argument...when a human egg is fertilized, what the hell else will pop out the womb? A fricking toaster oven?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:10 am to coozie
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I think the point is that falsifying financial documents with the intent to hide payments (to any party) is a federal crime.
So tell us counselor, why is the Manhattan D.A. seeking this information?
Of course, we know why -- Cyrus Vance is a far left whackjob looking for political dirt.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:11 am to wickowick
This will be used as a weapon by the next party that their candidate does not win the presidency.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:13 am to AggieHank86
quote:
As a strict constructionist, I think it is a terrible decision. As a political being, I think it reflects sound policy.
So you actually don't support the Constitution in any meaningful way, only a symbolic one?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:13 am to wickowick
Since Trump has been audited so many times...
He probably has very little to worry about...
Release them...
Then demand Biden gets the same treatment
He probably has very little to worry about...
Release them...
Then demand Biden gets the same treatment
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:14 am to TD422
Not the place for this discussion. BHP asked a question regarding criticizing the legal reasoning underlying cases in which we LIKE the result of bad reasoning. I answered him.
If you want an abortion thread ... start one.
If you want an abortion thread ... start one.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:15 am to jatilen
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Trump just lost
Not really. Only the most irrational partisan could have convinced himself that Trump had absolute immunity from all subpoenas. Furthermore, in both of these decisions the cases have been remanded for consideration of additional issues. Nothing will be final until well after the November election.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:17 am to SSpaniel
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Unless he loses the re-elect in which case all these presidential privelege issues are moot.
Also the cases will disappear as if by magic.
I doubt it. The hatred the Dems have for him will continue after he is out of office and they want to ensure no other citizen outside their little cabal ever tries to run for President again.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:17 am to wickowick
We'd save so much money by doing away with congress and let the SCOTUS rule on POTUS orders. It's what they want any way. Gravy train without having to make any controversial laws.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:17 am to TBoy
quote:As I said several pages ago, sometimes a delay IS a "win," even if you eventually lose on the merits.quote:Not really
Trump just lost
This is probably such a case.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 10:18 am
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:17 am to beastieboys
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Everyone knows there is something damning in the returns.
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