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re: Trump tax return decisions coming shortly SCOTUS 7-2, 7-2
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:03 am to coozie
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:03 am to coozie
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You're kidding, right?
(1) It's a state crime too in NY.
(2) The Trump organization is headquartered at 725 Fifth Avenue, Midtown Manhattan, which is squarely under Cyrus Vance's district. It's his obligation to prosecute cases in that district.
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:26 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Maybe I'm just stupid but I genuinely don't understand what all the fuss is about if you're a Trump supporter.
Is there anything else to this beyond "I know he probably did something bad and I don't want him to get caught"?
Is there anything else to this beyond "I know he probably did something bad and I don't want him to get caught"?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:29 am to tmjones2
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Is there anything else to this beyond "I know he probably did something bad and I don't want him to get caught"?
For the 1000th time
The problem is the returns will not be understandable by almost anyone.
Therefore, the media/dems can spin whatever they want and it won't be a matter of going and looking at it yourself.
I am sure they will be fair when they do that.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:32 am to SquatchDawg
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I really don’t see any legal basis for forcing a citizen to share their financial information.
There are tons of legal bases in which court force citizens to turn over their financial information. The most obvious is divorce proceedings.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:33 am to tmjones2
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Maybe I'm just stupid but I genuinely don't understand what all the fuss is about if you're a Trump supporter.
Is there anything else to this beyond "I know he probably did something bad and I don't want him to get caught"?
No, they know it's illegal to falsify financial documents in order to pay off a porn star so that she wouldn't speak about something that could ultimately influence the outcome of an election. I think I count like 2 crimes at least in that sentence.
This investigation is justified, but people here are more concerned about their partisan echo chamber.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:34 am to coozie
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This investigation is justified
You have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support this assertion.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:35 am to gthog61
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The problem is the returns will not be understandable by almost anyone.
Whether or not the returns are understandable by anyone in the public is completely irrelevant to a criminal investigation. That's obviously, for good reason, not the concern of a prosecutor.
If you're worried about how the Dems will spin it then donate to your favorite GOP fund to finance the counter-spin.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:39 am to Fun Bunch
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You have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support this assertion.
You're right! Thankfully, I don't have to hold the evidence to support this assertion. That evidence was already provided to the Manhattan DA when a subpoena was issued!
As a lawyer, you're getting awfully tied up in your emotions and partisanship, rather than the technical execution of the American legal system.
It's an investigation, relax. He hasn't been charged with anything.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:40 am to coozie
Someone still believes.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:42 am to coozie
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I think I count like 2 crimes at least in that sentence.
Then you can't count very well, at all.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:46 am to coozie
Yea I doubt that is going to show up on a tax return. What you are going to see is Trump having international business connections and it is going be used in the next round of Muh Russia.
I’m actually all for this if it sets a prescience for all politicians to have to submit their tax returns. Not a single politician will be able to justify their tax returns.
I’m actually all for this if it sets a prescience for all politicians to have to submit their tax returns. Not a single politician will be able to justify their tax returns.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:58 am to Seeker
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I’m actually all for this if it sets a prescience for all politicians to have to submit their tax returns. Not a single politician will be able to justify their tax returns.
Who would file law suits? This is purely to damage trump and get him out of the WH and DC.
Once that happens the GOP and Dems don't need to worry about the same happening to them. It's back to the good old days
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:03 pm to Fun Bunch
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You have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support this assertion
Except his former lawyer testifying under oath to Congress about it.
If Tony Rezko testified under oath he pulled some shady shite to contribute to Obama’s campaign, would you still be saying the Illinois prosecutor would be unjustified in opening an investigation? Or that Obama was immune to all state court criminal proceedings?
Some of you are so partisan you can’t see the forest for the trees
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:25 pm to Seeker
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I’m actually all for this if it sets a prescience for all politicians to have to submit their tax returns
Every president since Carter has...
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:29 pm to boosiebadazz
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Except his former lawyer testifying under oath to Congress about it.
He lied under oath, too. Are we supposed to pretend he was telling the truth about everything else?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:40 pm to the808bass
That would certainly go to his credibility in any trial on the matter. But it’s enough of a predicate to start an investigation.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:41 pm to boosiebadazz
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Chief Justice Roberts' opinion includes a road map of new and specific arguments Trump can now raise in lower court. These final pages of the opinion:
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:43 pm to coozie
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As a lawyer, you're getting awfully tied up in your emotions and partisanship,
Yes, I get upset when other members of the bar outright abuse their positions for purely partisan witchunts.
It hurts the entire profession.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:57 pm to the808bass
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He lied under oath, too. Are we supposed to pretend he was telling the truth about everything else?
He pled guilty to a campaign finance violation. Do you believe that a) he incurred that violation with zero knowledge or direction from Trump or b) there was no violation and he pled guilty to a crime he didn't commit?
Once you get a conviction for an act that almost by definition requires more than one person, it's justified to at least investigate the other people that came up in the Cohen investigation.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:01 pm to Steadmans Cheddar
quote:He was never charged with a conspiracy.
He pled guilty to a campaign finance violation. Do you believe that a) he incurred that violation with zero knowledge or direction from Trump or b) there was no violation and he pled guilty to a crime he didn't commit?
Once you get a conviction for an act that almost by definition requires more than one person, it's justified to at least investigate the other people that came up in the Cohen investigation.
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