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re: Trump survives assassination attempt

Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:03 am to
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:03 am to
Unless the SS has been constantly screwing up security, what is the likelihood of someone planning out this specific event and it not having been protected against by the SS.

There is no way the shooter just woke up yesterday morning and decided to do this. It had to have been planned by him over time (or someone else).
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 7:05 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51685 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:04 am to
New post from President Trump this morning.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77214 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:05 am to
quote:

A failure in that the shooter failed to hit the target...there is NO WAY in hell anyone can convince me that this was not a set up...there is NO WAY in hell that rooftop is not secure UNLESS they DID NOT want it secure...
I am not sure which is worse long term, severe institutional incompetence or corruption.
Posted by Old Man and a Porch
Member since Dec 2023
858 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:11 am to
I do not have any law enforcement or military training. Call me crazy, conspiracy theorist or whatever, something doesn’t pass the smell test.

Think how quickly this was taken care of. The shooter was killed within seconds, he was identified and he is a republican supposedly. This is a 20 year old kid without any type of military training and we are to believe he was able to get this close and pull this off on his own without any assistance.

Something is not adding up.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:15 am to
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Yeah someone breaking into your house and trying to beat you with a hammer, no biggie really huh Plenty of people have been killed with hammers.



I missed the part where Trump was shot by his gay lover while his wife was drunk and insider trading
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11309 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:17 am to
Looking at the SS sniper video:

Guy on tripod come off his scope, appears to be looking to confirm what he sees, immediately goes back down (after his entire rig gets moved) and shoots. Sounds/looks like he took first shot.

Then two more shots. Shooter or sniper?

Then rapid fire.

X vid

X vid of shots
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:17 am to
Al Jazeera is also reporting the shooter was a democrat donor, if people need a valid source for that

LINK
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8368 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:18 am to
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The more I think about it, it really is insane that he didn’t succeed. Had Trump not turned his head, it would have killed him. The fact that the shooter was able to get to that position, line up the shot, and fire multiple rounds before receiving return fire is insane. This was supposed to be a successful hit, all on national tv. How the hell does something like this happen? Teflon Don takes on a new meaning here.


And on 3 attempts with a damn near perfect sight line. That is unreal
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13160 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:18 am to
LINK

Seems like the attempts to paint him as a groyper white nationalist and republican voter was just somebody trolling. Edit: seems like he was registered Republican still though, so I’m somewhat still vindicated on the “hey look the crazy has some incoherent ideology” front.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 7:36 am
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23483 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:19 am to
If we think of this as honorable situation by the SS, then it feels they were already responding/investigating the threat before it actually happened. If that is the case why wasn’t Trump removed from the stage out of abundance of caution.



Separate thought:
Also it is crazy to think this young man had the skill to make that shot. It was very very close. Also recognize the nerves in shooting a person and a former President. It really pushes me to conspiracy thoughts.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 7:23 am
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
7128 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:23 am to
I hope this doesn’t turn into the fallout from the Vegas shooting where there’s more questions than answers.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11309 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:25 am to
quote:

A failure in that the shooter failed to hit the target...there is NO WAY in hell anyone can convince me that this was not a set up...there is NO WAY in hell that rooftop is not secure UNLESS they DID NOT want it secure...


Or simply not enough manpower to properly protect (passively the same thing).

The idea there would not be even a local cop on either side of that building is absurd.

Some sniper will certainly tell us if there was any reason that SS sniper would come off his scope before firing. I think he shot and missed then the other firing took place.

Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:37 am to
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Also it is crazy to think this young man had the skill to make that shot.




He was unskilled. It’s not a far shot and you don’t take headshots

Also snipers don’t use AR’s with 223 ammo (not 100% on this but that’s what it sounds like so far)
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11309 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:41 am to
I hear 9 shots

Tripod sniper that comes off scope shoots first.

Two more shots (possibly one prone sniper and the aimed shot of shooter ).

Then rapid fire from shooter.

Then kill shot. From who?

This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 7:57 am
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
3038 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:43 am to
I can’t find the picture but there is another SS sniper on a different roof. It’s a still picture but maybe he landed the kill shot. I really just can’t reason how they didn’t eliminate the threat until after he got 3 shots off.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4562 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:50 am to
LINK from this photo, was trump hit twice and saved by bullet proof vest?
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
5135 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:52 am to
After watching the videos I too am thinking the police sniper shot first at the assassin and missed.
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
3284 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:53 am to
I have feeling that the shot that hit the spectator that died is after shorter got hit. Spectator was 3/4 of the way up the stands it seems. That is a good bit ff from hitting trump.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13160 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:57 am to
quote:

He was unskilled. It’s not a far shot and you don’t take headshots Also snipers don’t use AR’s with 223 ammo (not 100% on this but that’s what it sounds like so far)


430ft right? Feel like an average range qualified non-combat arms soldier could make that shot from prone unsupported with iron sight. That’s right in the meaty middle of the qualification target distances.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:59 am to
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I have feeling that the shot that hit the spectator that died is after shorter got hit. Spectator was 3/4 of the way up the stands it seems. That is a good bit ff from hitting trump.


The way the stands/stage were set up, spectator was in shooter’s line of site. I think the first shot hits Trump, with subsequent shots being off that original mark with rapid trigger. It makes sense that he would set his target and send as many rounds as possible.
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