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re: Trump Rejects Tech CEO Calls for Slowing AI Development

Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70577 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:02 pm to
I half joked in one of the OT threads there is going to be a nuke exchange due to AI. There was some chatter that's why the girls' school in Iran got smoked.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
14016 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:03 pm to
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His logic on this is valid.


I don't care about his logic.

There may be some folks that have the edge on him in logic.










Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15230 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:06 pm to
I would rather American AI to take over terminator style then Chinese AI take over terminator style

Unless the Chinese stop no since in the west stopping. If it happens it’s going to happen. If it doesn’t happen China would be ahead and control.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125610 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:08 pm to
China is going to take are AI freedoms
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39799 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:10 pm to
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Sure. I guess what I was getting at though is that it's essentially an open industry at this point. There are many things the average person could do to acquire a slice of the pie for themselves right now without much effort. It's all a matter of how well you can talk to your AI agent.


Oh yeah, I spend hundreds on AI every month right now.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70577 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:11 pm to
These threads are a little annoying. "We have to go full throttle because China is going to beat us!" At what? Making manufacturing more efficient, maybe I can see that. But, there is a lot of herp derp that we need to throw all ethics and potential regulation to the wind because we may lose some competition few people can even articulate.
Posted by Robcrzy
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2007
1606 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:12 pm to
frick Trump Oil is fricking continuing to rise and no end in sight for this stupid fricking war if anything its expanding to with the Huthis causing problems
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2396 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:19 pm to
He's saying that because the economy is being proped up by the AI boom. Most of the stock market gains are from speculative AI plays plus a large percentage of manufacturing and construction.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
43033 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:20 pm to
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These threads are a little annoying. "We have to go full throttle because China is going to beat us!"


1. You are so thoroughly broken at this point by Trump that everything coming out of the White House you find "annoying." No different than any other sky-screaming leftist really, so I'm still not sure why you ever pretended to be anything other than a sky-screaming leftist.
2. This isn't an opinion piece really. It's a thread talking about what is the official government policy on the issue that cites national security as it's rationale. So like I've said a few times now, bitch about it all you want. It won't change anything.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 7:23 pm
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
43033 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:22 pm to
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frick Trump Oil is fricking continuing to rise and no end in sight for this stupid fricking war if anything its expanding to with the Huthis causing problems


I'm sorry this thread isn't about what you want to talk about. Might I suggest either starting a thread on this topic yourself or commenting in one of the several others that IS on this topic?
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70577 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:24 pm to
If Trump told you we need to regulate AI because of X, Y, and Z and/or some vague national security reason, you would swallow that whole.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
43033 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:29 pm to
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If Trump told you we need to regulate AI because of X, Y, and Z and/or some vague national security reason, you would swallow that whole.


Trump DID say this. That is what this thread is about. I'm glad I could clear up for you the subject of the thread on page 4. If you bother to actually read the thread, the logic of this decision is laid out in unassailable form. Instead of simply saying it's "annoying" or implying that I would just "swallow it whole", if you are actually interested in participating in and advancing the actual discussion, you could try to explain why you think the logic is NOT unassailable.

But since you don't even understand what the topic of the frickin thread is and need it explained to you on page 4, I'm guessing you aren't actually interested in advancing any real discussion. Which, as everyone on this board knows, is typical of your bullshite posting style.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 7:30 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63149 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:45 pm to
What does winning AI look like?

What does winning Iran look like?

What does winning look like under this regime?
Posted by MightyJoeYoung
Member since Jul 2026
217 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:55 pm to
Translation:

I approve Skynet. Who cares. I love it.

I'm a chaos magician who has been brought in to destroy you all.

Suck it up losers. My kids are making billions on insider trading and govmt corruption.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
43033 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:58 pm to
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What does winning AI look like?


This is actually a good question. I'm going to ignore the rest of your post because it is more typical of your stupid posting style and is not the topic of this thread.

As has been discussed, this is a military initiative probably more than any other one thing. So while there is no clear finish line in an AI race because it is open ended, there is a geopolitical and defense objective and that is to use AI to achieve security dominance. The goal there would be to achieve superior intelligence gathering, autonomous defense capabilities, and decision-making speed. Winning would look like when the US is able to maintain control over the full hardware supply chain (semiconductors, lithography equipment, data centers) while using AI to process signals, simulate battlefields, automate cyber-defense, and operate autonomous systems faster than any adversary can respond.

The benchmark there would be deterrence. Winning means an adversary realizes that attacking or competing militarily is impossible due to your cognitive and operational superiority.

There are other factors besides military initiatives that also factor into what the government would consider "national security" as well, such as economic & industrial, ideological & cultural, and technological breakthroughs, but I figured focusing on just the military aspect is enough because as you can see, and as I said early in the thread, the objective here is a military development that dwarfs the development on the atomic bomb. Their objective with AI dominance on the battlefield is nothing short than putting an end to wars through sheer intelligence superiority.

This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 8:04 pm
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
43033 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Translation:

I approve Skynet. Who cares. I love it.

I'm a chaos magician who has been brought in to destroy you all.

Suck it up losers. My kids are making billions on insider trading and govmt corruption.


Translation of your translation:

I am a dumbass who has no clue as to what he's talking about.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3494 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:16 pm to
Anthropic and OpenAI want regulation. That way they become a permanent duopoly that controls AI in the US moving forward. It also means they control the cost of tokens. This is a smart move by Trump.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63149 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:18 pm to
Thanks for the thoughtful response.

quote:

The benchmark there would be deterrence. Winning means an adversary realizes that attacking or competing militarily is impossible due to your cognitive and operational superiority.
aren’t we already here? How would another country know that we’ve maintained our superiority through another medium?

quote:

is nothing short than putting an end to wars through sheer intelligence superiority.
using AI to put an end to wars? This sounds like an empty talking point.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9273 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:20 pm to
Guns don’t have their own objectives, nor do they have the ability to independently pursue those objectives without human intervention.



That is a horrible analogy. A far better one would be receiving a transmission from another solar system that read, “people of earth, we are coming to your planet… prepare”.

The fact that we apparently have no interest in preparing is mind blowing
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
43033 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:20 pm to
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This is a smart move by Trump.


I agree, but it isn't just Anthropic and OpenAI. Elon is saying the same things.
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