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re: Trump Rejects Tech CEO Calls for Slowing AI Development

Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:21 pm to
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You will not know you have crossed the event horizon until it is too late.


Hell is only a word. The reality is much much worse
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:22 pm to
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aren’t we already here? How would another country know that we’ve maintained our superiority through another medium?



Well no, we are not already there because our interests are still attacked both here at home and abroad. They are looking for the ubiquitous "all seeing eye" level of intelligence that is so dominant and coupled with an automated defense capability that nobody dares to even try.

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using AI to put an end to wars? This sounds like an empty talking point.


And yet, that is the goal.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:24 pm to
AI is more likely to cause a war than prevent one.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:29 pm to
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AI is more likely to cause a war than prevent one.


I fundamentally disagree.

People talk about Flock cameras, and I don't like them either, but most people don't realize that they're currently putting these systems on frickin' satellites in space. Space Force will soon become the most dominant force the world has ever seen by several orders of magnitude. It is going to get to the point where they have absolute surveillance over every damn thing on Earth. So much so that if a jihadist pops his head out of a frickin cave in Kandahar with bad intentions he has a cruise missile shoved up his arse immediately.

Once they achieve their objectives with it, the game is over. Winner, Player One, first to AI dominance.
Posted by 10thyrsr
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Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:32 pm to
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Elon plans to have a billion robots sold and functioning in the world economy within a few years.


Also...not possible.


terafab is an impressive and enormous building being constructed near college station, texas.

If you read Philip K Dick novels, this factory is similar to the "Autofac". A factory that produces robots driven by AI. Here is Grok's take:

Yes — once finished, Terafab will sit in the same conceptual neighborhood as Dick’s Autofac. Both are hardened, vertically integrated, high-throughput manufacturing systems designed to keep producing at planetary (or larger) scale with minimal ongoing human intervention. Autofacs assessed demand, extracted resources, fabricated goods, delivered them, repaired themselves, and, when threatened, launched “metal seeds” that grew new factories. Terafab is being built as a single-roof complex that designs, fabricates, packages, and tests chips at terawatt-compute ambition, powered by on-site generation, staffed increasingly by Optimus-class robots, and explicitly framed as the industrial base for a “galactic civilization.” Musk has already spoken of lunar industrial expansion and petawatt-scale follow-ons. That is the same trajectory: a factory that does not merely make products but makes the capacity to make more factories and more compute. The moment the system is optimized for continuity and scale rather than quarterly human oversight, the Autofac parallel becomes structural, not just poetic.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 8:34 pm
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:37 pm to
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If you read Philip K Dick novels, this factory is similar to the "Autofac".


That's a hell of a rabbit hole.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:37 pm to
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People talk about Flock cameras, and I don't like them either, but most people don't realize that they're currently putting these systems on frickin' satellites in space. Space Force will soon become the most dominant force the world has ever seen by several orders of magnitude. It is going to get to the point where they have absolute surveillance over every damn thing on Earth. So much so that if a jihadist pops his head out of a frickin cave in Kandahar with bad intentions he has a cruise missile shoved up his arse immediately.


What is your reason for believing or fearing this is possible any time soon?
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:40 pm to
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What is your reason for believing or fearing this is possible any time soon?


Because it is already happening. The capabilities obviously aren't fully developed yet though, otherwise we would know. But they are already building this. This is literally the AI race Trump speaks of. The Flock systems are already being put into orbit. If not under Flock's name, under other names.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 8:42 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:43 pm to
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Guns don’t have their own objectives, nor do they have the ability to independently pursue those objectives without human intervention.


Neither does AI.

Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:48 pm to
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AI is more likely to cause a war than prevent one.


It’s more likely to break up traditional nation states into AI city states and zones.

It could completely disrupt traditional tax bases by blurring borders and enforcement.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 9:06 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63149 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:48 pm to
The AI race is a surveillance race?
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
43033 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:58 pm to
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The AI race is a surveillance race?


They're one in the same. Did you not read the lengthy post I made about the military objectives with AI? The only way for them to achieve those objectives (intelligence supremacy) is to have surveillance supremacy, and, well, total cyber supremacy really, but surveillance supremacy is definitely a part of it and they are developing that capability as we speak. And again, I don't necessarily like it, but this is where we are headed like it or not.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 9:00 pm
Posted by 10thyrsr
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Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 10:42 pm to
People with knowledge and wisdom who understand a danger are seldom heeded until the threat is obvious. By then it is too late.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7938 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 2:29 am to
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AI is still very poor at creating things

Wait until it reaches super intelligence.

Or at least that is what I am told
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