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Posted on 11/9/26 at 8:52 am to stout
it's a trial balloon to take the temperature of the country and make the case that he is willing to work with Dems
when they reject everything and come after him even harder then he can say he tried to work with them but they are unreasonable lunatics
when they reject everything and come after him even harder then he can say he tried to work with them but they are unreasonable lunatics
Posted on 11/9/26 at 8:55 am to stout
The reality is that deporting 20 million people was never going to happen. Not only is it bad optics, but it would be very costly and divisive.
We should have sought a deal:
1.) Illegal aliens who have been her for a specified amount of time as of today, have a job, and have not committed any crimes may stay by applying for a permanent work visa after paying back taxes, etc. This deal does not apply to people who enter the country after today.
2.) If you do NOT apply for the work visa within the allotted time allowed, you will be deported if ICE catches you. No excuses. Assumption being that you are avoiding paying back taxes and/or current taxes.
2.) If you are on a work visa and commit a felony, you are deported. No questions asked.
3.) If you get a Visa, you will NEVER be a citizen, unless you leave and get in line and apply to enter legally.
4.) If you are caught trying to enter illegally after this bill passes, you will forfeit any right you had to enter legally in the future.
I think that's a fair deal. We never make progress on this issue because people on both sides take a hard line approach. It's time to grow up and make a compromise. We lost a lot of leverage with this election, and I hope Trump doesn't sign off on something that gives amnesty to 10's of millions of illegals, because if he does, the border will be overrun again.
There has to be a message to future border crashes that they should not do it. We can't continue to allow people to break the law and then feel sorry for them when they get punished for their crimes.
We should have sought a deal:
1.) Illegal aliens who have been her for a specified amount of time as of today, have a job, and have not committed any crimes may stay by applying for a permanent work visa after paying back taxes, etc. This deal does not apply to people who enter the country after today.
2.) If you do NOT apply for the work visa within the allotted time allowed, you will be deported if ICE catches you. No excuses. Assumption being that you are avoiding paying back taxes and/or current taxes.
2.) If you are on a work visa and commit a felony, you are deported. No questions asked.
3.) If you get a Visa, you will NEVER be a citizen, unless you leave and get in line and apply to enter legally.
4.) If you are caught trying to enter illegally after this bill passes, you will forfeit any right you had to enter legally in the future.
I think that's a fair deal. We never make progress on this issue because people on both sides take a hard line approach. It's time to grow up and make a compromise. We lost a lot of leverage with this election, and I hope Trump doesn't sign off on something that gives amnesty to 10's of millions of illegals, because if he does, the border will be overrun again.
There has to be a message to future border crashes that they should not do it. We can't continue to allow people to break the law and then feel sorry for them when they get punished for their crimes.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 9:06 am to supatigah
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it's a trial balloon to take the temperature of the country and make the case that he is willing to work with Dems
when they reject everything and come after him even harder then he can say he tried to work with them but they are unreasonable lunatics
If the Dems were smart they cut some deal with Trump and not investigate him or his admin and family to get a sweet amnesty or healthcare bill that they want.
If it helps with his legacy in the public eye (forget the party's eyes)and media and he can have some signature bill that protects his family from being brought before congress, then he would do it.
I'm hoping the dems aren't that smart and just take aim at Trump and not back off. Hopefully that creates some resolve in Trump to fight them everywhere.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 9:27 am to jp4lsu
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lunatics If the Dems were smart they cut some deal with Trump and not investigate him or his admin and family to get a sweet amnesty or healthcare bill that they want.
Don’t be surprised if the Omar investigation dies too.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 9:35 am to BoarEd
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Quit hyperventilating. Look at who he just put in as CoS. Stephen Miller is the most staunch "get them the frick out of here NOW" person there is in Trump's orbit.
Looks like you’re the one hyperventilating…
Trumpanican.
And where do you get the time to post between trumps shoe shines and arse wipes?
Lol
Posted on 11/9/26 at 10:11 am to stout
any room for compromise? What if they don't get deported, but there are strings?
sign up- if in USA >10 years- no deportation- but no citizenship.
no voting any elections until naturalization.
5% tax a year while in limbo
no soc security until 75
sign up- if in USA >10 years- no deportation- but no citizenship.
no voting any elections until naturalization.
5% tax a year while in limbo
no soc security until 75
Posted on 11/9/26 at 10:27 am to stout
Posted on 11/9/26 at 10:33 am to stout
There must be some path for many of them to become citizens. There’s no other way around it at this point. That being said, it should in no way be all-inclusive amnesty. Pick and choose and create specific criteria.
And for the love of God, make the democrats give you something in return.
And for the love of God, make the democrats give you something in return.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:15 am to stout
And everyone called me names for the past year when I said Trump would do this after the mid terms.
He's been floating the idea over and over.
He's been floating the idea over and over.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:16 am to SixthAndBarone
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There must be some path for many of them to become citizens.
Yeah, it's called getting deported and doing it legally instead of rewarding people for breaking the laws of our country as their first act.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:19 am to 3down10
The American people just told you they wanted it or did you perceive the message Tuesday as tighter immigration enforcement? Lol face it we shite the bed as a nation
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:19 am to blueboy
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Promises of mass deportations got him elected. Legal immigrants strongly supported it
FWIW a lot of the Hispanic vote voted for strong borders and the mass deportation of criminal illegals. Even illegals want criminals out, they left their countries because of criminals not being held accountable.
I understand the "all illegals" are criminals pushback, but again stop thinking in MAGA bubble terms. The vast majority of the population doesn't think of Juan their handyman who goes to church every Sunday and hasn't ever done anything wrong but sneak into the country as a "criminal" who Trump was going after when he talked about getting out the "worst of the worst." There's a messaging difference there that a lot of people feel betrayed by.
For my conspiracy theory thoughts: Trump negotiates an "amnesty" but in return gets codified border security and Miller gets to go balls to the wall for anyone with a criminal record.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:28 am to lionward2014
quote:Just like Reagan, who never got what dems promised him. No thanks.
Trump negotiates an "amnesty" but in return gets codified border security
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:19 pm to Rip Torner
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The American people just told you they wanted it or did you perceive the message Tuesday as tighter immigration enforcement? Lol face it we shite the bed as a nation
bullshite, immigration was the only bright spot for the GOP.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:26 pm to 3down10
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What other choice doe he have?
This midterm had very little to do with ICE. I think it was economy, wars, and struggling younger people.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:27 pm to lionward2014
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For my conspiracy theory thoughts: Trump negotiates an "amnesty" but in return gets codified border security and Miller gets to go balls to the wall for anyone with a criminal record.
Truth is, in a vacuum most of us would take some sort of deal that involved meaningful immigration pause, no shortcut border security, streamlining of the admin/judicial/etc. processes that make it nearly impossible to deal with what Biden did to us.
But we also know Democrats don't actually want any of that, and they control most of the institutions that will be able to subvert any such deal, so I can't see how you'd get to anything that would be acceptable.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:29 pm to jp4lsu
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This midterm had very little to do with ICE. I think it was economy, wars, and struggling younger people.
Yep, those were the things Trump campaigned on and did a 180 on.
Trump and the neocons have been wanting amnesty for big companies the entire time. He's floated it around. I said for over a year now he would grant amnesty after the mid terms.
Now they are going to pretend like the one area they did well in was the reason they lost?
These people do not represent the citizens of this country. They are globalists and should be tried for treason.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:32 pm to 3down10
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Tick tock, everyone needs to prepare themselves
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:33 pm to 1999
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Tick tock, everyone needs to prepare themselves
Trump has been pushing it the past 2 years.
There are a lot of big corporations who hire illegals and he wants to give them amnesty because of it.
We could have gotten all this by voting for Kamala because there is only 1 uniparty and they hate the citizens of this country.
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