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Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:09 pm to _Hurricane_
When OMB decided to bust a move against Iran with Operation Epic Fury it was no longer a limited military operation to pester the Islamic Regime like Operation Midnight Hammer. The US and Israel would not admit it but the original belief was if the US and Israel shite stomped Iran for a few weeks the Islamic Regime would splinter and some form of a domestic uprising would occur....didn't happen. Now we see the vast majority of Persians firmly standing against the US and Israel and now they view their Islamic Authoritarian government as their best hope of maintaining some semblance of a civil and functioning society. I think the Pesrians are wrong by standing with the Islamic Regime but what are they gonna do without some organized armed resistance....they're screwed. The Islamic Regime knows they hold power until an external military force takes it away, and they're betting the US and Israel do not have the guts/balls to try some massive ground invasion to unseat them.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:11 pm to _Hurricane_
By making that demand, it's his way of saying there is no way in hell we are meeting your demands. He does not expect Iran to pay reparations, but it calls them out for their past crimes.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:19 pm to ronricks
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Also it is Trump and not Iran who gets to decide when this thing is over. Do you really think Trump wanted this to drag out for almost six months?
No but that still doesn’t change the fact that Iran is not in a position of strength. Trump not Iran decides if talks continue or bombs start falling again. The only hope Iran has is holding out until next year and praying that the democrats win the midterm elections. Even that doesn’t give Iran much leverage since the war powers act has never been accepted as constitutional by any President and if the democrats tried to invoke it then it would be tied up in the court system for months.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:28 pm to 1999
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he screwed up. just say you made a mistake and end this. none of this helps normal people afford daily basic needs.
I've been quickly losing respect for him. Admitting he fricked up would be better than continuing to carry out an outright lie.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:34 pm to TigersBucs
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Fascist much?
I read where a previous POTUS named FDR did it to the Japanese people in America during WWII. If it made sense then, why not now? Certainly, humans have not evolved but only a miniscule since then, right?
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:44 pm to _Hurricane_
As soon as those in charge of Iran demanded reparations I thought the USA should demand reparations for exactly the same things that Trump just demanded reparations for.
It's Trump's way of saying "Fu*k you, asshats! Beggars can't be choosers."
It's Trump's way of saying "Fu*k you, asshats! Beggars can't be choosers."
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:46 pm to _Hurricane_
Oh well.
Better than Kamala though. Right?
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:48 pm to _Hurricane_
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we have any leverage here. He’s been getting played like a fool
What cards does Iran have left to play? The Straight’s been closed long enough now the supply impact of it being closed has worked into markets. Gas and diesel prices are high, but not even near all time highs and the economy continues to hum We have way more runway than the Iranians do.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:48 pm to j1897
It's a message board, chimp. You have a choice.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 4:18 pm to _Hurricane_
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Well good thing he outright said he doesn’t care about affordability!
You're missing context.
Did you leave it off because you're ignorant of what he meant or because it would make people realize he didn't really express the sentiment that you want them to believe?
If you want our soldiers to be able fight wars without being hamstrung by political objectives, then you should have no problem with what Trump said.
If you're okay with more soldiers dying because public sentiment determines the ROE, then I can see why it would bother you.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:17 pm to _Hurricane_
Pipe down Karen and think how bad off we would be if Heels Up and Tampon Timmy won.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:48 pm to SelaTiger
Wanting what is best for our country is embarrassing you.
Do us a favor and move to Iran so you can be proud.
Do us a favor and move to Iran so you can be proud.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:49 pm to 1999
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he screwed up. just say you made a mistake and end this. none of this helps normal people afford daily basic needs.
Have you read any articles laying out a prediction as to how this ends? I haven't. This is the time when I like to read those types of articles.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:05 pm to idlewatcher
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I've been quickly losing respect for him. Admitting he fricked up would be better than continuing to carry out an outright lie.
Sigh. Where to start…
1) I imagine he takes your quick loss of respect seriously since that’s most likely the first time it’s happened in his life and Presidency. Actual leaders making tough calls are always on guard for this.
2). Nothing says good negotiating tactic like admitting you fricked up while in the process of the negotiation
3). I’m sure you have plenty of examples of 21st century Presidents who have admitted they fricked something up. Especially while it was on going in their admin. Or after it was over.
It’s clearly getting to the frenzy portion of this subject where posters aren’t even thinking before typing.
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:07 pm to Dawglovertoo
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As soon as those in charge of Iran demanded reparations I thought the USA should demand reparations for exactly the same things that Trump just demanded reparations for.
It's Trump's way of saying "Fu*k you, asshats! Beggars can't be choosers."
Nah. He just hates to be left out of any conversation, so he just responded in like kind. Just like a child.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:16 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
For Iranian leaders, this is existential. For US leaders, it’s political. In weighing factors of determination, I’ll take existential every time.
Throw in the religious angle that suffering and dying for the cause is Allah’s will, and you cannot defeat that with political maneuvering and bombs.
Throw in the religious angle that suffering and dying for the cause is Allah’s will, and you cannot defeat that with political maneuvering and bombs.
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