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re: Trump indicates he is likely to give Zelenskyy more weapons, following Vatican meeting

Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8658 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:40 pm to
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Don't you mean it's how Nixon got North Vietnam to agree to let us surrender?


Nope, the Deep State pulled off a coup and removed Nixon. Zero chance North Vietnam would have captured the South while Nixon was in office. We had stopped all the communist invasions post-1971 through the use of air power alone.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
72115 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:40 pm to
I really wish that hack would at least link the articles that he rips off.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9803 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:41 pm to
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If it turns out true


This board is gonna lose its mind.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21668 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:43 pm to
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This war would end today if Putin just said the word. There is nothing Zelensky can do to stop the bloodshed. Fight back or die.



Thats a possibility. If so, it's Zylenskis fault. He's has the opportunity to stop this 2 weeks after it began. The moral question of whose tight and whose wrong, who invaded first and who didn't, is no longer relevant.
The end result of this "war" has never been in doubt. Zylenski can continue to be stupid and lose even more of his land and people or he can accept the reality that he'll never get back the land he's lost nor the Ukrainian lives he's wasted for nothing.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8658 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:44 pm to
I think there’s a degree of truth. Putin is stalling and Trump is losing patience. The Russians fear Trump because they think he’s unpredictable and because they know he will hit back hard when angered. This is the type of uncertainty/fear that is needed to get both sides to sign the deal.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154919 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:47 pm to
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Sounds like a negotiating position more than a real commitment


People just don’t get it. 3D chess.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10349 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:47 pm to
Trump should not give Zelenskey anything.

Europe has said they were gonna foot the bill, let them do it.

If Ukraine wants to be a full grown country, they should fight their own war and if they can't, Russia should conquer it and pay for its reconstruction.

Not our problem.
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3603 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:52 pm to
Hope not true. Not want I voted for.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:53 pm to
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If it turns out true


This board is gonna lose its mind.


As everyone should, this is not America's war, it's the cia's war.
Trump needs to get control of them and the fbi.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14442 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:56 pm to
Bargaining chip to force Putin back to table.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8658 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:01 pm to
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Bargaining chip to force Putin back to table.


The people who don’t get this clearly don’t know how to negotiate deals.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25273 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:10 pm to
Early on Trump said if Putin didn't cooperate to end the war, that he would give Ukraine more weapons than they can use.

We shall see how this unfolds.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6510 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:15 pm to
That does not say that HHTM.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13450 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:16 pm to
What happened to the billions Europe was supposed to give??

Oh, they just said they were giving but then failed to actually write the check.

Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41589 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:16 pm to
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he Russians fear Trump because they think he’s unpredictable and because they know he will hit back hard when angered.


Disagree......Putin isn't worried about Trump. Either Trump and Z cave and give him what he wants or we will just wait Trump out and grind Ukraine down.

Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:19 pm to
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Bargaining chip to force Putin back to table


Putin never left the table. He just met with Witkoff on Friday in Moscow. Zelensky left the table when he told Trump he didn't like his peace proposal and that caused Rubio to cancel the meeting in London last week

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Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7689 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:24 pm to
Well played, President Trump. Putin has to have a reason to make a deal. Press hard on him and Zelensky.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23805 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:25 pm to
Another 5d Chess move by the master?



Posted by Chorizo chang
Statesboro
Member since Feb 2022
794 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:26 pm to
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If true this is highly disappointing.
Big Capital is getting to him


What Is everything wrong that im reading that Putin is being absolutely non responsive in the supposed mediation? Trumps tweets sure indicate that. So what’s he supposed to do?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25273 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:27 pm to

The will of the Russian minorities in Ukraine is just Putin's excuse to invade.



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