re: Trump apparently does not have control of rogue CIA factions in Ukraine.

Get Putin to take them out.

RED........retired extremely dangerous. Bruce Willis could straighten that crowd out.

But if you cut off the “dark money” like they have methodically been doing, it will put a dent in their capabilities.

We need to start perp walking like a true Dictator.

Wait for a DNC/WHO/NATO CONFERENCE & round them up, death on scene.

That’s the only way to treat pure evil, with evil!

Seeing a bunch of reaction to the NYT piece. Matt Taibbi went nuts over it.

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Now that the war appears lost, and newspapers abroad (conspicuously, not here) are full of news about an apparent bombing of Vladimir Putin’s motorcade, and the future of NATO hangs by a thread, the Times has run a 13,000-word “Secret History” that shows the same U.S. officials who denounced Trump and American voters for saying it out loud long ago concluded that they, too, should probably “walk away.”

The piece is also an extraordinarily comprehensive betrayal of Zelensky and Ukraine, exponentially worse than the “dressing down” by Trump. Authored by longtime veteran of controversial intel pieces Adam Entous, it’s sourced to 300 American and European officials who seem to be responding to their apparent sidelining via a shameless tantrum, exhibiting behavior that in the field would get military men shot. Not only do they play kiss and tell with a trove of operational secrets, they use the Times to deflect blame from their own failures onto erstwhile Slavic partners, cast as ignorant savages who snatched defeat from the jaws of America-designed victory. It’s as morally abhorrent a piece of arse-covering ever as I’ve seen in print, and that somehow is not its worst quality.

The people who quarterbacked the NATO side of the Ukraine war are so pleased with themselves, they can’t keep from boasting about things that will make the average American want to pitchfork the lot of them. Entous describes a tale told “through a secret keyhole” that reveals how America was “woven into the war far more intimately and broadly than previously understood.” (Translation: it was hidden from us.) Sources not only make it clear that the public was lied to on a continuous basis from the outset of the conflict, but they describe how we were lied to, apparently thinking the methods clever. Some are small semantic gambits the idiots wrongly believe exculpated their actions, but the main revelation involves one gigantic, inexcusable deception. From Joe Biden down, they all lied about the risk of World War III.

They risked our lives and our children’s lives, knowingly, repeatedly, and for the worst possible reason: politics. Afraid to admit a mistake, they planned individual excuses while letting bureaucratic inertia expand the conflict. Worse, as was guessed at on this site late last year, the Biden administration after last November’s election increased the risk of global conflict by “expanding the ops box to allow ATACMS and British Storm Shadow strikes into Russia,” in order to “shore up his Ukraine project.” If you check this “secret history” against contemporaneous statements of American and European leaders, you’ll find the scale of the lies beyond comprehension. Heads need to roll for this:

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From the outside it certainly appeared that U.S. officials, at a time when their lame-duck president was wandering into foliage in Brazil, were upping the ante in Ukraine as a way of rendering rapprochement impossible before the new government took office. No other explanation made sense. On the other hand, heightening global nuclear risk just to guarantee continuation of a doomed policy seemed impossibly cynical, even for whoever was running the White House by then.

Now we find out from inside sources this was done precisely to prolong the “Ukraine project.” There are a hundred details in this “Secret History” that serve as stark warnings to anyone who thinks protection from Armageddon is secure in the hands of career military and intelligence officials. Not only did we allow ourselves to be “blackmailed” into escalating a conflict with a nuclear power, the management of the “partnership” broke down because of a Heathers-style spat between the key brass twits, Ukrainian general Valery Zaluhniy and Mark Milley.

When Milley second-guessed Zaluhniy, the latter would respond with teen-like silence, or by ghosting Milley’s next call. Underscoring: the country to which we were giving hundreds of billions in aid didn’t feel a need to pick up the phone. Entous describes the general lack of communication via a moment of levity: “Biden administration officials would joke bitterly that they knew more about what the Russians were planning by spying on them than about what their Ukrainian partners were planning.”

The solution to the Miller-Zaluhniy feud, no joke, involved a blimp maker:

To keep them talking, the Pentagon initiated an elaborate telephone tree: A Milley aide would call Maj. Gen. David S. Baldwin, commander of the California National Guard, who would ring a wealthy Los Angeles blimp maker named Igor Pasternak, who had grown up in Lviv with Oleksii Reznikov, then Ukraine’s defense minister. Mr. Reznikov would track down General Zaluzhny and tell him, according to General Baldwin, “I know you’re mad at Milley, but you have to call him.”

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NYT article admits that this was more than proxy war between the US and Russia. It was as close as could be to an all out hot war between the two sides (US and Russia).

NYT however is running cover for the Biden administration. When you read through this very long article, the conclusion is that the Biden administration and US military command were easily defeating Russia until...
1) The Ukraine Generals started acting up and disobeyed US orders.
2) Zelensky chased "big wins" for PR reasons, failing to follow US strategy.
3) Resulting in the 2023 counteroffensive 'failure.' Trust was broken between US and Ukraine.
4) What followed was the US keeping Ukraine in the game up to the US elections, by striking targets in Crimea and pre-2014 Russia.
5) Trump entered the WH and decided to wind the war down, handing Russia the win.

"History Is Written by the Victors."
In this case the NYT has decided that the US (under Biden) was victorious, IF not for the insubordinate Ukrainian Generals and ego of Zelensky. Trump will be blamed for the end result capitulation.

??The article 100% explains why NATO and the Europeans still believe that they can win this war. Peak delusion and propaganda.

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Y’all forget.

Trump has 3.5 years left before he disappears forever.

The CIA has been here well before him, and will be here long after.

Just pointing out facts.

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Donnie 9 inch flies to Ukraine unnanouced

Fires every CIA person there

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Why couldn't he fire them from here?

What's he gonna do? Order them to line up at the airport so he can ID them and fire them?

According to your thesis he doesn't even know who they are

No president has ever had any real control of the fricking CIA, watch the good shepherd movie sometimes. Their inner circle is fricking skull n bones connected.

The last president that tried to reel them in was Kennedy, and look what happened to him.

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Donnie 9 inch flies to Ukraine unnanouced

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Not a chance. Air Force One would be shot down by the "Russians" before it ever got to Kyiv.