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re: Trump announces Health Care Plan

Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
6475 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:54 am to
There was never anything affordable about Obsmacare. I lost my job about 8 years ago and was quoted $1400 a month for my family of four. The deductibles were ridiculous as well. Fortunately, I was rehired pretty quickly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:55 am to
quote:

The problem with medicine and health insurance is that about 80 percent of the cost is at the end of life. Ift may extend life for months or a year but does not increase the quality of a persons life at that age.

We have to stop spending money to extend life a few months where it does not result in an improvement to quality of life.

There is a point where nature has to take its course.


Too many Republicans already are on record about "death panels"
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299293 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:56 am to
He's kinda got the right idea, though I dont think his math works out, which unfortunately would most likely end up leading to single payer.

Hes kinda on the right path, and before you end ACA subsidies, you will have to have a replacement or the revolt will be incredible.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14664 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:57 am to
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There are millions of people out there like me who are in their 60s and 70s who rarely need a doctor.
Our cost will be way less than $3000 each.

And those millions of people are all on medicare. I doubt very seriously whether medicare would be touched.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14664 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:58 am to
quote:

The problem with medicine and health insurance is that about 80 percent of the cost is at the end of life. Ift may extend life for months or a year but does not increase the quality of a persons life at that age.

We have to stop spending money to extend life a few months where it does not result in an improvement to quality of life.

There is a point where nature has to take its course.


So... let's just let people die. Got it.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37988 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 11:59 am to
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So we get a check and then pay the doctors with no middle man?

Wait until the Dims roll in here to tell us how the world will fall apart without insurance being the middleman, and that what Trump is doing is literally what Hitler would have done, in 3... 2... 1...

Insurance companies are a fricking scam and a grift and everyone knows it. Let's see who else will actually admit it and see which usual suspects will deny and deflect.

The Insurance Industrial Complex and the Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex are tied in symbiosis with federal funds and subsidies and they all need to be razed to the ground.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
26068 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:00 pm to
If and when it gets to a vote, we'll know which ones are in the pockets of Big Insurance.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7942 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:01 pm to
Even if the math doesn’t add up, this is genius-level persuasion. He is so damn good at this.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:02 pm to
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The Insurance Industrial Complex and the Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex are tied in symbiosis with federal funds and subsidies and they all need to be razed to the ground.


Agreed. It’s time for nationalized healthcare.

We can even call it trump care!
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37405 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:03 pm to
the people who turned Luigi into a hero are going to be very confused on this issue

similar to “Muslims are right about women”, they have nowhere to really go except defending the Insurance companies
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28131 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Trump announces Health Care Plan


"Trump posts about health care" would be a helluva lot more accurate.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60088 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:12 pm to
Wouldn't this get us closer to single payer?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22953 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:20 pm to
Can you imagine if POTUS shut down the advertising and lobbying costs with an Executive Order that prohibits such activity how quickly the Congress and media would get out of the bed of the medical industry, especially the pharmaceuticals?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38347 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:23 pm to
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Genius, in my opinion
So the patient gets a check after they are discharged and we expect them to send that money to the doctor and hospital? Yeah - that will work beautifully.
Posted by iamfrankreynolds
Member since Jul 2024
194 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:25 pm to
Bad orange man, bad!
- DEMS
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50742 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Can you imagine if POTUS shut down the advertising and lobbying costs with an Executive Order that prohibits such activity


We'll have to imagine it since there isn't a single politician suggesting that.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21892 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39153 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:30 pm to
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So, take the ACA subsidy and give it to people instead, but restrict it to healthcare spending?
could a government run HSA be feasible? Drop the money in designated accounts that can only be spent on health related costs
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29579 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:41 pm to
He has a point, how do Insurance companies take subsidiaries then claim record profits?

Shouldn’t any profit equal or below what they received be returned?

More Democrat bullshite
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
2110 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:44 pm to
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The problem with medicine and health insurance is that about 80 percent of the cost is at the end of life. Ift may extend life for months or a year but does not increase the quality of a persons life at that age.

We have to stop spending money to extend life a few months where it does not result in an improvement to quality of life.

There is a point where nature has to take its course


So you're proposing we institute a Death Panel?
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