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Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:49 pm to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:57 pm to GoblinGuide
I am saying we should stop spending billions to extend life weeks or months while the patient lies in the hospital and is known to be terminal.
The only people profiting on this is the medical industry.
They have to stop the fraud of, hey the patient has Medicare/ insurance let’s run up the bill as high as we can over the next few weeks instead of placing the person in hospice where they have a peaceful and dignified death.
There are two systems that rob us blind. Medical industry at the end of life and university system, largely because the money comes from the government and is endless
The only people profiting on this is the medical industry.
They have to stop the fraud of, hey the patient has Medicare/ insurance let’s run up the bill as high as we can over the next few weeks instead of placing the person in hospice where they have a peaceful and dignified death.
There are two systems that rob us blind. Medical industry at the end of life and university system, largely because the money comes from the government and is endless
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 11/8/25 at 1:01 pm to ItTakesAThief
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I am saying we should stop spending billions to extend life weeks or months while the patient lies in the hospital and is known to be terminal.
The only people profiting on this is the medical industry.
So you'll need someone to determine when people should succumb to death. Probably a whole panel of someones.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 1:02 pm to MemphisGuy
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doubt very seriously whether medicare would be touched.
If it has to be then it has to be all or none.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 1:02 pm to geauxEdO
The only good things I'll say about Obamacare is the dependency age up tp 26 and preexisting conditions being eliminated.
- The age to 26 has really has opened doors for young people to take more risky jobs out the door of college...Internships, foothold jobs, etc- without breaking their paycheck.
- The age to 26 has really has opened doors for young people to take more risky jobs out the door of college...Internships, foothold jobs, etc- without breaking their paycheck.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 1:04 pm to GoblinGuide
Know the health system should encourage people to enter hospice care. Rather than putting them through medical care that does not improve their quality of life.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 1:50 pm to Kjnstkmn
And thus chart right here is exactly why nothing significant will be done.
Corporations are worst than the Gov’t, the true overlords. Once they get a taste for the big money “growth”, there not gonna let that slip away.
I was down in Bogota, Colombia and had a substantial amount of dental work needed, easily $20-25,000 worth of work if done in USA.
Instead, I did it in Bogota for $3,400 total. And it was the best care, service and overall technical equipment and technology that I’ve ever seen in one clinic.
This place does regular dental, cosmetic dental and oral surgery all in the same place, can do it all.
If you go there & get altitude sickness and messed with your breathing, no problem, even at 2-3am in the morning, a pharmacy will deliver you a little asthma breather for $15…
We are getting hosed on every angle of our lives.
Cost of living hasn’t gone down with Trump, I don’t see anything getting cheaper other than gas, but that’s an easy one to bring down as the formula to do so is there, quit mandating stupid crap that causes scarcity or less production and the prices come down.
But for the Big Health Complex, they have their claws in us and having us subsidize the worlds health expenses.
I read in Sweden, the average medical prescription is 1/10th the cost versus the USA.
We are on a road to becoming a 3rd world country. Islam creeping in and pumping kids out 2-3x’s faster and the core reason is venture to say is the average American is barely staying afloat and can’t afford kids responsibly. And a major reason is health care expenses. Frick this system!
Corporations are worst than the Gov’t, the true overlords. Once they get a taste for the big money “growth”, there not gonna let that slip away.
I was down in Bogota, Colombia and had a substantial amount of dental work needed, easily $20-25,000 worth of work if done in USA.
Instead, I did it in Bogota for $3,400 total. And it was the best care, service and overall technical equipment and technology that I’ve ever seen in one clinic.
This place does regular dental, cosmetic dental and oral surgery all in the same place, can do it all.
If you go there & get altitude sickness and messed with your breathing, no problem, even at 2-3am in the morning, a pharmacy will deliver you a little asthma breather for $15…
We are getting hosed on every angle of our lives.
Cost of living hasn’t gone down with Trump, I don’t see anything getting cheaper other than gas, but that’s an easy one to bring down as the formula to do so is there, quit mandating stupid crap that causes scarcity or less production and the prices come down.
But for the Big Health Complex, they have their claws in us and having us subsidize the worlds health expenses.
I read in Sweden, the average medical prescription is 1/10th the cost versus the USA.
We are on a road to becoming a 3rd world country. Islam creeping in and pumping kids out 2-3x’s faster and the core reason is venture to say is the average American is barely staying afloat and can’t afford kids responsibly. And a major reason is health care expenses. Frick this system!
Posted on 11/8/25 at 2:05 pm to geauxEdO
where's the plan part in that rant?
Posted on 11/8/25 at 2:12 pm to geauxEdO
Almost like a tax credit for premiums. Look, I loathe Obamacare and the increased subsidies Biden implemented but Trump's plan is essentially the same.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 2:17 pm to geauxEdO
This would essentially be like a health savings account I guess. If this money was left to accumulate over time solely for health needs it could work. Still seems kind of universal healthcareish, but really not different than taking out money for social security that can’t be touched until retirement or a life emergency.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 11/8/25 at 2:28 pm to geauxEdO
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Genius, in my opinion. One of Trump’s greatest traits is thinking outside the box and coming up with common-sense solutions.
Many on this forum, myself included, have said for years the only way healthcare costs are kept in check or reduced is to stop the federal government from subsidizing healthcare and to eliminate the insurance company middleman. Direct doctor to patient service would open up competition along with exposing the good doctors vs the mediocre doctors.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 2:30 pm to geauxEdO
Great. Please make mine a certified bank-drawn check just for, uh, record-keeping purposes.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 11/8/25 at 4:19 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:I believe RFKjr has suggested such.
We'll have to imagine it since there isn't a single politician suggesting that.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 4:23 pm to NIH
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Democrats will be defending big insurance in no time
We’ll have to wait for Roger to opine. He’s an expert on the healthcare system, deficit spending, and the Venezuelan fishing industry.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:So any hospital that sees a patient in the ER and has no insurance, they transfer the patient to another hospital? We called that dumping. Maybe tweak it but do not abolish it. Many of our rural hospitals are in such dire straits is that they are now Emergency Hospitals. They have no inpatient care. So, they do what they can, stabilized and transfer. I think most are doing fairly well with it.
Any plan that doesn't involve repealing EMTALA will have fundamental cracks present.
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The “rural emergency hospital” designation – a move State Health Officer Dr. Daniel Edney likened to a hospital closure – was rolled out at the beginning of this year. To qualify, hospitals have to end inpatient services and transfer emergency room patients to larger hospitals within 24 hours. In exchange, they get monthly stipends from the federal government and higher insurance reimbursement rates.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 11/8/25 at 4:45 pm to geauxEdO
Trump admin should explore a hybrid insurance/investment program. Similar to HSA in that you have a fund that can grow year over year but with your insurance premium where you receive a credit that can build year over year when you have zero to minimum claims against your insurance.
This would be an incentive for healthy lifestyle. Example, if I my insurance premium is $12,000 annually but I never meet my deductible, I receive a discount on my premium the next year. That discount accrues every year I do not have claims above my minimum deductible.
Or, have the premium discount paid towards an individuals HSA and when the HSA account meets a certain amount, the HSA can be used for premium payment.
This would be an incentive for healthy lifestyle. Example, if I my insurance premium is $12,000 annually but I never meet my deductible, I receive a discount on my premium the next year. That discount accrues every year I do not have claims above my minimum deductible.
Or, have the premium discount paid towards an individuals HSA and when the HSA account meets a certain amount, the HSA can be used for premium payment.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 4:50 pm
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