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re: Trump 1 vs Trump 2

Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
8326 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:14 pm to
Yes I did believe there would be mass deportations.

I also believed he would drain the swamp and prosecute and imprison the evil people who are criminals in our government.

Am I disappointed? Yes.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
81566 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:38 pm to
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I also believed he would drain the swamp and prosecute and imprison the evil people who are criminals in our government
Come on man. That was never possible. There are 250,000 federal employees in DC with serious job protection. One gets the boot in some long drawn out process and there are 500 ready to replace him.

And because of my tempered expectations, I'm 70% pleased with his terms.
This post was edited on 8/12/26 at 8:40 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17221 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 7:18 am to
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DeSantis would never have done doge, never would have shut down USAID, and never would have done half of what trump has pushed for regarding immigration. DeSantis likely isn’t looking as deep into healthcare fraud either.


Not true and doge didn’t really do squat anyway. We have record debt under trump.

DeSantis would have taken a much more logical approach to his policies. He wouldn’t piss off people to the point that they despise him. He would have given europe a heads up about Iran rather than alienate them and then try to embarrass them.

Trumps act is growing old as it always does but first term was tolerable since he didn’t appear to be cashing in on his position. So it was tolerated.
This time, his act is growing old AND he’s cashing in- BIGLY. Billions. He’s mocking his supporters who theiught he was gonna drain the swamp and make government more accountable. He’s the opposite.

If that’s what you want then you can just vote democrat or neocon every time and get the same result.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71487 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 7:28 am to
Federal jobs are at their lowest level in 50 years. That’s a pretty serious reduction in federal workforce, no?
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17221 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 8:49 am to
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Federal jobs are at their lowest level in 50 years. That’s a pretty serious reduction in federal workforce, no?


Not sure if true but even if it is, it’s a pimple on an ants arse.

Federal expense for the past 3 years in trillions
2024 6.75
2025 7.01
2026 est 7.45

Trump will have spent more than any president on earth. (Dramatic for effect)

He will not bring in enough tax revenue to cover the expense to bring about a deficit of @ 1.85 trillion! That’s also amongst the highest ever recorded on the planet earth if not the galaxy.(more drama)

The point is, Trump isn’t cleaning the swamp or lowering our government overhead. He’s growing it. He tells you great things to gaslight you. Some people like that.

Positives for Teump- changing some of the legal landscape. He generally appoints conservative federal and Supreme Court judges. I wish he would have an opportunity to appoint another Supreme but it’s not looking like he will. But DeSantis could do that too. He would likely be even better on the Supreme side.


The positives for trump don’t outweigh the negatives for me. He is going to leave some heavy marks that will create more tit for tat when democrats get power- and they will.



Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71487 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 9:10 am to
Is the ratio of Trump’s positives vs negatives better or worse than the other options on the ballot or are they just not as optimal as your imagination?
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9680 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 9:40 am to
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No Kamala, doing fine.


So we didn’t get stuck with absolutely terrible, it’s ok to be mostly terrible. You’re pathetic and an example of why Washington is a cesspool.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
26051 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 9:43 am to
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You’re pathetic and an example of why Washington is a cesspool.


Bite me.

I have nothing to do with the cesspool of Washington and neither do you, ya pompous asshat.

I had a more comprehensive answer posted below what you quoted- but if you don’t think dodging another 4yrs of BidenHarris policies counts for something, well, you’re the idiot.

Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9680 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 9:47 am to
I quoted your response. You wrote it, I didn’t. This garbage of as long as my guy/party wins, I don’t care how he performs, just as long as it’s my guy; It’s pathetic. Period.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
13742 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 9:50 am to
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I also believed he would drain the swamp

Trump not only didn't "drain the swamp" he added to it especially in his first term.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
13742 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 9:52 am to
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Is the ratio of Trump’s positives vs negatives better or worse than the other options on the ballot

This again?
Do you understand what an extremely low bar it is when you try and compare Trump to Biden or even Kamala? Anyone who can fog a mirror is better than Biden. This is like being the tallest midget. Shouldn't we strive for someone that is just a little better than Biden? Did any of you think replacing one cognitively declining 80 year old with another cognitively declining 80 year old was not a good idea?
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
5087 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 9:54 am to
What raises my eyebrow is the way so many formerly maga-hooyah-oh-hell-yeah Trump people have since disassociated with Trump, saying things like “we didn’t know he would be this bad.” or “he deceived us”

Hmmm.. Nope.

Bubbas, he was pretty clear from the jump. You baws just didn’t care til it affected you.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71487 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 9:54 am to
I’m not talking about the general. I am talking about the primary. If it is the responsibility of voters to ensure competent leadership, who on the ballot in the GOP Primary would have delivered a better administration across the board?

The reality is that Congress has a very narrow majority allowing for fence sitters to shut down legislation. The Senate has a similar problem as the GOP is essentially in open rebellion between party leaders and supporters of the president’s agenda. I don’t think these issues suddenly get massively better with a different president.
This post was edited on 8/13/26 at 10:00 am
Posted by guy4lsu
shreveport
Member since Aug 2004
3301 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 10:05 am to
Trump 2 is a disaster so far. He took us right back into a war. The tariffs are a tax in an already bad economy. We are in an ai boom and he hasn’t taken advantage of it.
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
3125 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 10:17 am to
Kamala may have been a better choice. Did we know it at the time? Nope.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71487 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 10:18 am to
I think we still know that Kamala would have been a much worse choice. Let’s be real.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26907 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 10:32 am to
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No Kamala, doing fine.


FFS. This crap is killing this country.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26907 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 10:34 am to
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but if you don’t think dodging another 4yrs of BidenHarris policies counts for something, well, you’re the idiot.

That’s not what you wrote.

You literally said the only thing that matters is Kamala losing.

Idiot.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
13275 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 10:35 am to
This is perfect for the whiners. One of the Trump's has to lose.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
7333 posts
Posted on 8/13/26 at 10:37 am to
Trump 2 is just another neo-con puppet. Trump 1 had promise, but the neo-con puppets in Congress, constant impeachment and intelligence agency attacks and covid derailed a lot of what he was trying to do.
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