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re: "Toxic Productivity"
Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:33 am to alphaandomega
Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:33 am to alphaandomega
Indeed. That used to be called "make yourself a hand"
I tell my kids "look around, see what needs to be done, do it, and do it well".
You'd be surprised how low the bar is for being a good employee as a college student.
I tell my kids "look around, see what needs to be done, do it, and do it well".
You'd be surprised how low the bar is for being a good employee as a college student.
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:35 am to Jbird
quote:
Toxic productivity is essentially an unhealthy desire to be productive at all times, at all costs. It's the need to go the “extra mile” at work or at home, even when it's not expected of you. Toxic productivity doesn't even let up once the task is complete.
In other words, it's not being a lazy frick. Of course Marxists have a problem with it.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:37 am to BamaChemE
quote:
"Toxic Productivity"
Used to be called driven for success way back in the old days.
I'm sure someone, somewhere soon will add this to the racism pile.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:39 am to GoT1de
It's only racist because of the lack of work ethic of those using the term like it is a bad thing to actually do your work.
It should be insulting to all non lazy people who want to be employed but in this current climate, not so much.
It should be insulting to all non lazy people who want to be employed but in this current climate, not so much.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:41 am to BamaChemE
quote:
I'm in a few text convos with other faculty, and letting the idiots speak is pushing folks to the right. I figure when your opponent is destroying themselves, it's best not to get in the way of it.
They’re not destroying themselves. They’re winning.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:01 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:Yeah, but those productive people are going to be the first ones to be disillusioned by the disproportionate returns on their labor. They can't be having all that resentment brewing in their utopia.
Communes still need productive people willing to go the extra mile
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:03 pm to Jbird
Type A Personality?
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:03 pm to BamaChemE
I may have “toxic mediocrity.”
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:12 pm to BamaChemE
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:15 pm to BamaChemE
Lovely.
I received this seminar invite (to my university/faculty email account) last week:
From one disgusted and dejected academic to another, might I suggest sharing the follow follow-up response to the attendees?
Dreaming of success without a willingness to work will only leave you dreaming.
Hang in there.
We’re fighting a lonely war, but the alternative isn’t an option.
I received this seminar invite (to my university/faculty email account) last week:
From one disgusted and dejected academic to another, might I suggest sharing the follow follow-up response to the attendees?
Dreaming of success without a willingness to work will only leave you dreaming.
Hang in there.
We’re fighting a lonely war, but the alternative isn’t an option.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:17 pm to BamaChemE
Anyone who believes in the existence of "Toxic Productivity" has "Toxic Stupidity".
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:19 pm to TheFonz
quote:Why like it? Under Communism everyone gets the same regardless of their individual productivity.
Sounds about right. Commies don’t like hustle and hard work.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:23 pm to DevilDagNS
quote:
So why did he say this was problematic? What is the "unhealthy" or toxic part?
The at all costs part
There is a point where you job can easily effect your health and family. It can even effect your performance as burnout is a real issue at most places with this kind of work culture.
The definition clearly points at the idea that your job shouldn’t ruin the rest of your life and people jump on here to be like “communist hate good old fashioned hard work.”
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:28 pm to Jbird
quote:
Toxic productivity is essentially an unhealthy desire to be productive at all times, at all costs. It's the need to go the “extra mile” at work or at home, even when it's not expected of you. Toxic productivity doesn't even let up once the task is complete.
So a good work ethic?
Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:18 pm to BamaChemE
Mass education was a mistake. We created a tool the marxists almost immediately used against us.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:19 pm to BamaChemE
Communism, where they pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:20 pm to TheFonz
From each according to his gifts to each according to his needs.
Or more simply put, from workers to parasites.
Or more simply put, from workers to parasites.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:27 pm to BamaChemE
An old friend spent time in the USSR as it was about to collapse. One of the Soviet workers favorite quips was, "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work."
On the management experience side, "If you want small nails set the quota by the count. If you want big nails, set the quota by weight."
On the management experience side, "If you want small nails set the quota by the count. If you want big nails, set the quota by weight."
Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:33 pm to Jbird
quote:
Toxic productivity is essentially an unhealthy desire to be productive at all times, at all costs. It's the need to go the “extra mile” at work or at home, even when it's not expected of you. Toxic productivity doesn't even let up once the task is complete.
Yeah, that's the average life with a job and kids.
It could be worse....
Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:52 pm to BamaChemE
Read the first page, and I am about as 'toxically productive' as they come. I think fast, walk fast, work fast, fish fast, and love to drop at the end of a productive day. I label this as life-loving 'enthusiasm', as opposed to a genetic or psychologically (Ego/prevailing cultural status games) driven form of uncontemplated impetus.
This said, a half century ago I experimented with my own perception in an effort to determine a basic strategy and impetus for my enthusiasm; I.e., what to do and think in order to get the most satisfaction and appreciation out of my very short (relatively so) life.
I read a lot, took mind/perception altering drugs a lot, fasted, and even totally abandoned contemporary life for a year (with no intention of going back...if...) in order to clearly determine what the perceptual possibilities were. Pretty tough...almost blew it (thank you Jesus) but I found out. Though finding out for me, is irrelevent to any other person. Donald Trump would rather die than live in my perceptive reality. To each their own.
One of the disciplines necessary to truly examine unseen/unexperienced versions of 'perceptual reality'/feeling, is to "stop the world". I.e., to totally negate the influences of one's worldly scenario on one's perception. Monks and Easterns do this, and many civilizations and cultures have used various techniques to accomplish this exploration of the possibilities of human perception.
Bottom line: Each person must decide WHAT it is they hope to 'be' (perceive or feel) in their life. Productivity at the cost of love, could be a loser, for some. I know this, many of our best folk get up every day and leave their loving children, doing what they believe to be the right thing for the prosperity of their family. I wish I had more time to 'play' with my Great Granddaughter...but I blew not saving up enough to do so; so I have to work. There was this song way back about a little child missing time with their always working Father...and the child grew up to be "just like dad". With no value - or little value for 'unproductive' time with family - as opposed to the other value of relative societal accomplishment...and the psychological 'status bling' and power and toys that comes with it. James Redfield somewhat addresses this in "The Celestine Prophecy".
Though I a sickened by a lot of the 'Woke' culture, I can not totally condemn their instincts and impetus - and the Spiritual basis therein - in this particular instance. But that is just me. To each their own.
This said, a half century ago I experimented with my own perception in an effort to determine a basic strategy and impetus for my enthusiasm; I.e., what to do and think in order to get the most satisfaction and appreciation out of my very short (relatively so) life.
I read a lot, took mind/perception altering drugs a lot, fasted, and even totally abandoned contemporary life for a year (with no intention of going back...if...) in order to clearly determine what the perceptual possibilities were. Pretty tough...almost blew it (thank you Jesus) but I found out. Though finding out for me, is irrelevent to any other person. Donald Trump would rather die than live in my perceptive reality. To each their own.
One of the disciplines necessary to truly examine unseen/unexperienced versions of 'perceptual reality'/feeling, is to "stop the world". I.e., to totally negate the influences of one's worldly scenario on one's perception. Monks and Easterns do this, and many civilizations and cultures have used various techniques to accomplish this exploration of the possibilities of human perception.
Bottom line: Each person must decide WHAT it is they hope to 'be' (perceive or feel) in their life. Productivity at the cost of love, could be a loser, for some. I know this, many of our best folk get up every day and leave their loving children, doing what they believe to be the right thing for the prosperity of their family. I wish I had more time to 'play' with my Great Granddaughter...but I blew not saving up enough to do so; so I have to work. There was this song way back about a little child missing time with their always working Father...and the child grew up to be "just like dad". With no value - or little value for 'unproductive' time with family - as opposed to the other value of relative societal accomplishment...and the psychological 'status bling' and power and toys that comes with it. James Redfield somewhat addresses this in "The Celestine Prophecy".
Though I a sickened by a lot of the 'Woke' culture, I can not totally condemn their instincts and impetus - and the Spiritual basis therein - in this particular instance. But that is just me. To each their own.
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