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Total Number of Deaths per Year

Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:01 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:01 pm
LINK

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”Therefore, according to Briand, not only has COVID-19 had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people, but it has also not increased the total number of deaths.”
“All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary,” Briand concluded.


I know many have hypothesized that this was the case. Link is from a Libertarian site, so I’m not sure of the scientific validity.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:02 pm to
They’ll just say the lockdowns prevented a bunch of other deaths
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:04 pm to
Muh flatten the curves
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:10 pm to
From November of last year.

Certainly the full 2020 numbers have been tabulated by now though?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:20 pm to
A little bit of research shows that 23% more people died in 2020 than what models expected. That's pretty significant.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

little bit of research shows that 23% more people died in 2020 than what models expected. That's pretty significant


It is, and it will be interesting to see what mortality looks like for the next few years if these are pulled forward or not. I wouldn't know where to begin to separate out causes of death from the virus vs response to virus.
Posted by BeepNode
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:24 pm to
That would be quite interesting if true.

Maybe it is, but they need to show exact sources of complete numbers. When will the CDC list the totals for 2020?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164288 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

A little bit of research shows that 23% more people died in 2020 than what models expected. That's pretty significant.

Are those the same models that predict global warming?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46166 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

That would be quite interesting if true.

Maybe it is, but they need to show exact sources of complete numbers. When will the CDC list the totals for 2020?


I can guarantee they’re still massaging those numbers to comport with the desired outcome.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16420 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:28 pm to
We never had a pandemic. We had a virus strand weaponized to save China’s arse and get rid of Trump.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:28 pm to
Covid-con

C’mon. Here’s the deal. It was bullshite to steal an election and coalesce more power.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29137 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:32 pm to
This past year will go down as the biggest charade/overreaction in the history of this country. And it's not even fricking close either.
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:47 pm to
Hard to die when you can't leave the house for a year
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/11/21 at 12:00 am to
I recall that, for a time, the average age of a covid death was 78 -- the same as the overall average age of any death.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12913 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 12:08 am to
quote:

I know many have hypothesized that this was the case. Link is from a Libertarian site, so I’m not sure of the scientific validity.

The article is dated in November. The oversight is the delay in validating deaths.

The current estimate for deaths in 2020 is 3.4 million deaths LINK

Now compare that revised figure with the historical trend identified in your link:
quote:

2013: 2,596,993
2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,813,503
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,855,000
2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880

Posted by pecxs
Pasadena, CA
Member since Dec 2003
512 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 12:27 am to
80% of those died with Covid-19 are over 65 year old; only 74% of all deaths are over 65 year old.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12913 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 12:34 am to
Here's some additional data that you might find interesting:

The flu season that gave us the highest amount of deaths was 2017-2018. It is estimated that 45 million people in the US contracted the flu. 61,000 died. So 0.1% of people who contracted the flu died.

Now let's compare that to Covid rates.
30,897,028 tested positive
558,028 deaths - 1.8% died

They were right. Covid has been far deadlier than our worst flu season.

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12913 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 12:36 am to
quote:

80% of those died with Covid-19 are over 65 year old; only 74% of all deaths are over 65 year old.

Did they die at higher rates than they did during our worst flu season?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111554 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:10 am to
Yes. It was worse than the flu. It wasn’t “shut the country down” worse.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:25 am to
There are a lot of flu and pneumonia deaths baked into that 500k number
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