re: Today's Enemedia/MSM anti Trump talking point, "Trump's Red Line Failure"

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Your comments in the last few pages say otherwise

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no, they really don't

unlike many on here i'm consistent in my support for free speech

you are seeing what you want to see

I already said i was speaking generally. Just replace "you" with "your ilk" or "the majority of those right of center"

if that's all you have to hold on to here then you have no argument.

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Leaders say stuff like this all the time

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of course they do, which is why I don't understand why y'all are running around denying it

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of course they do, which is why I don't understand why y'all are running around denying it

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Denying that he said it? Who is doing that?

We're saying that it isn't a red line. And no one would be calling it one had Obama not shite the bed in Syria. Now liberals will chirp everytime a republican rattles the proverbial sabre and my overseas travel plans get torpedoed.

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Kap isn't playing because he sucks at football.

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last year he completed 59% of his passes on 311 attempts for 16 TDs and 4 INTs and a 90.7 passer rating.

That objectively is more than good enough to be on a roster.

There is no legitimate football reason for him to not be employed.

I'm wasting my breath with you, but there is a big difference between philosophical statements about national defense and specific, wartime benchmarks for military action. Your logic would suggest that virtually half the shite Reagan said as president was a "red line". Truman's entire presidency was a red line. Hell, much of Hillary's Russia rhetoric would be considered a red line. Obama was always careful with his words post Syria, but he'd often use Rice to make these types of statements in regard to NK. Those were never called red lines.. odd.

Besides, "red line" is the media's new favorite buzz phrase. They've been wearing it out regarding sessions and Mueller recently.

Rhetoric isn't a declaration of war. Red lines are unambiguous, highly specific thresholds for military action that are planned in advance of conflict. What trump is doing is signaling china and Japan to our intentions in the region. No one in the military seems to be confused about this, just liberals and Lindsay Graham.

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last year he completed 59% of his passes on 311

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There were 25 qbs in the NFL last tear with more pass attempts and better comp% than kap. There were 10 more qbs drafted this year that teams are invested in. He also has a specific skill set that doesn't fit well in many nfl offenses.

He's not playing because he's not good enough.

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its semantics, and I don't get it

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there are many ways to describe it and the media randomly decided (without discussing it apparently) to come out and use a term specifically linked to Obama after he literally used the term "red line". why did every media outlet in unison choose this specific way to describe a meme with a ton of descriptions?

call it a line in the sand or some shite and nobody would give half a shite

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well, that's exactly what happened

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So what is the quote Trump said that actually established this red line? What did Trump say he would do exactly if the line was crossed?

Did he opine a specific solution if the line was crossed? I only see innuendos by Trump and nothing specific.