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re: To those of you who continue to support Putin in this European conflict...

Posted on 5/22/23 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 2:58 pm to
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You do realize that your analysis has fallen for the most part on deaf ears - even though you've lived there and understand the culture.

It's incredible.

The last time we've seen a one-sided admiration society to this degree for Bolsheviks were from the Left when they were schmoozing and coozing over the Russians from
Krushchev all the way to Gorbachev when it really got scandalous.



You pro MIC/War fools keep misconstruing the position of those Americans who oppose sending hundreds of billions of US taxpayer money to fund a US proxy war with Russia in the Ukraine. Most of these Americans oppose the US being the tip of the spear in funding the war in Ukraine, the EU should be taking the lead. The people whom you claim are pro Putin generally do not like Putin at all but they despise and hate what the illegitimate regime has done to facilitate this Ukraine/Russia shite show...... it could have 100% been averted with competent diplomatic efforts .
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35956 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:00 pm to
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Is vehemently opposing billions of American taxpayer dollars being sent to Ukraine supporting Putin?


Yes

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Is vehemently opposing billions more in weaponry being sent to Ukraine to kill Russians and entangle the US in a war we have no business in supporting Putin?


Yes

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Is steadfastly believing that Ukraine is every bit as corrupt and evil as Russia, and that neither are worth one penny of American money or one drop of American blood supporting Putin?


Yes

-The OT war college.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:13 pm to
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Where is the Ukraine located, Europe? Why don't they take care of this problem instead of sending almost a trillion dollars of American tax dollars.


Because Putin is balls deep in Europe, and they don’t want him to stop pumping. They want us to go to war and have our children die in a war with Russia.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:19 pm to
We identified the village idiot, somebody get this guy an award.

And also, don’t tell us what to do or think. Keep Your uneducated opinions to yourself
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27405 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:24 pm to
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We identified the village idiot


Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4563 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:25 pm to
Educate yourself
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7795 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:29 pm to
Acknowledging the likelihood of Putin overtaking Ukraine is not support, it's just a recognition of the facts. It's a game of numbers, and the numbers are on Russia's side. The USA should never have gotten involved. Also, Ukraine is no less corrupt than Russia
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:30 pm to
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LSURussian
You have more first hand knowledge about the situation preceding the war there than most of us.

Given Vlad's proclivities, and our understanding of them, do you not think he was deliberately provoked in this thing?
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3237 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:34 pm to
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Russian civil war going on in Belgorod right now



With American mraps?

Lol you can't be stupid enough to believe that.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:36 pm to
No one supports Putin here, they are neutral.



















































Or so everyone here keeps telling me .
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:37 pm to
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Yeah I'm not really buying this whole "you support Putin if you are tired of seeing DC launder billions of dollars via Ukraine".


I’m still working out the details, but this stance somehow makes you a Hitler Putin lover. Apparently geopolitical stances are limited to 2 choices.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167573 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:06 pm to
and I have yet to see any Putin apologists. Just the same neocon neoliberal idjets that fell for the Bush Obama wars.

Crypto money laundering FTX to Ukraine. Why did Victoria Nuland testify that she was worried Russia would get ahold of bio chem labs the USA ran in Ukraine, if they weren't dangerous?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:08 pm to
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Favorite team: California
Location: Nashville
Number of Posts: 6
Registered on: 5/21/2023

Yikes!
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
4542 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:09 pm to
frick Ukraine.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167573 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:10 pm to
Russian seems to have wanted a Ukraine thread on poli; that is as ridiculous in any real discussion in the Ukraine OT thread, full of neoliberals and neocons.

Has Russian watched Oliver Stone's Ukraine on Fire? Interviews direct with Ukraine officials that were thrown out in 2014 by a USA color revolution.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27202 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:13 pm to
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I hope you come to your senses soon and stop being a unwitting purveyor of the Russian propaganda machine.

Putin is a ruthless, paranoid, megalomaniac murderer. And he is not going to stop with Ukraine.


Why the laser focus on Putin. He is trying to do the same thing Z did. Take over Ukraine. Same thing Z group did. One did it from within, the other is doing it from the outside. But make no mistake both of there goals are/were the same. Take over of a "sovereign country".
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:29 pm to
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You pro MIC/War fools keep misconstruing the position of those Americans who oppose sending hundreds of billions of US taxpayer money to fund a US proxy war with Russia in the Ukraine. Most of these Americans oppose the US being the tip of the spear in funding the war in Ukraine, the EU should be taking the lead. The people whom you claim are pro Putin generally do not like Putin at all but they despise and hate what the illegitimate regime has done to facilitate this Ukraine/Russia shite show...... it could have 100% been averted with competent diplomatic efforts .



Two positions on this.

One is that the amount of money Biden is sending to the Ukraine is obscene.

The other is that war is the worst choice possible, and this one could've been avoided.

Your guy wasn't pushed into this, where he found himself cornered and he had no alternative.

He's always fantasized about one day reprising those lost soviets, and finally saw his opportunity.

He wouldn't be an authentic Leninist - as he claims to be - were he to feel otherwise.

Also, pushed on here from the very beginning was that Putin was of such foundational ethics that he bristled and recoiled at just the thought of the corruption going on in the Ukraine - and that was another of the reasons for his incursion.

Then in the process he might even find time in his busy schedule to save us from the globalists.

When the only thing "global" about Putin and his oligarchs is their searching constantly around the globe for more havens/sanctuaries to stash their ill-gotten gains they've continued to siphon off the Russian people.

Wonder how they all fared with Credit Suisse, and what alternate moves they had to make.

As for Biden, even with the people's money he keeps sending over there, intuition says that he'd like nothing better than for the Russians to wipe the Ukraine off the map because that's where many of the bodies are buried connected to the Biden Brood.

Just as many bodies connected to them that are buried over in China, but which he can do little to nothing about.

Notice you truncated the psychological profile of Putin, which covered only a very little of what he actually is.

That's what really grates on some of you.

To be reminded of exactly what it is you're backing.



Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38053 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

hope you come to your senses soon and stop being a unwitting purveyor of the Russian propaganda machine.

And you follow that with:
quote:

Putin is a ruthless, paranoid, megalomaniac murderer. And he is not going to stop with Ukraine.

Which leads me to:

Nobody here supports Putin, that I've seen. The overwhelming majority of "Putin supporters", as we keep getting called, just want our fricking tax dollars to stop being spent on a war that we should not be involved with in any capacity.

So please stop being an unwitting purveyor of Establishment Uniparty/MSM Propaganda Machine Complex propaganda by continuing to refer to us as "Putin supporters".

Thanks.
Posted by Grad92
Member since Feb 2023
1027 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:37 pm to
My guess is his next target will be either Georgia,



why not florida? he would have access to the atlantic and GOMexico
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

No one supports Putin here, they are neutral.
No! No!

Those of us wanting the proxy war to end and the killing to cease are Putin Puppets.

Get your meme right!
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